Chuck Baldwin speaks out against new Constitutional Convention

by Bob Unruh

Globalists are “salivating” over the possibility of a Constitutional Convention at which issues such as the 2nd Amendment could handily be dismissed, according to a leader who warns Virginia likely is the next target for the drive.

“There is no question in my mind that, should a new Constitutional Convention be called, it would be the end of the United States of America as we know it, and our current Constitution and Bill of Rights would be forever altered beyond recognition,” Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin wrote in his latest commentary.

“The globalists who currently control Washington, D.C., and Wall Street are, no doubt, salivating over the opportunity to officially dismantle America’s independence and national sovereignty, and establish a globalist North American Union - in much the same way that globalists created the European Union. A new Constitutional Convention is exactly the tool they need to cement their sinister scheme into law.”

WND reported when the American Policy Center issued an alert that the plan was under consideration in the Ohio legislature.

The proposal was put aside, at least temporarily, because of publicity generated by the organization run by Tom DeWeese. WND later reported some Wyoming lawmakers, alarmed by the prospects, announced they were working to ensure that if a convention is held, it would convene in the face of their opposition.

Wyoming previously called for a Constitutional Convention but rescinded the votes in 1999. However, it is unclear whether even a formal vote to withdraw a request for a convention would have an impact or whether any limits could be imposed, according to constitutional expert John Eidsmoe.

Baldwin, the founder of Crossroad Baptist Church in Pensacola, Fla., and a radio talk show host, now is urging citizens to contact their state representatives on the issue, especially residents of Virginia.

“As I noted in this column a few weeks ago, proponents of assembling a new Constitutional Convention are a scant two states away from achieving that monstrous reality,” he wrote. “At that time, the state of Ohio was in the crosshairs.

“Fortunately, enough people from that good state inundated their state representatives with objections, and the matter was tabled (for how long, no one knows). Now it appears that the Commonwealth of Virginia is going to be the next battleground state,” he wrote.

“In all likelihood, the Virginia legislature will be the next state government to take up the Con Con issue. It is imperative, therefore, that the citizens of Virginia begin contacting their various representatives, demanding that they not authorize the call for a new Constitutional Convention.”

WND’s earlier report noted 32 states already have approved demands for the convention, and only two more states are needed to complete the list.

“If called, a modern Constitutional Convention could declare the U.S. Constitution to be null and void, and could completely rewrite the document. For example, former U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren Burger once declared, ‘There is no effective way to limit or muzzle the actions of a Constitutional Convention. The Convention could make its own rules and set its own agenda,’” Baldwin wrote.

He said in Virginia, lawmakers previously had asked for the convention but rescinded the call in 2004, so this year’s debate apparently will be over the rescission.

Baldwin said residents of California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin have not yet voted for a new convention…

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30 Responses to “Chuck Baldwin speaks out against new Constitutional Convention”

  1. Craig M. Says:

    I thought amnesty was the worst thing we were going to have to stand against in the next few years. This makes amnesty seem mild by comparison. (I am thankful to be able to exercise the freedom to write this while the freedom of speech (in some forms) still exists.

  2. Maynard Says:

    Well Craig, you may have the freedom to do so now, but I’m sure you’re on some watchlist (or el watchlisto) somewhere for when the big day comes. That’s why I would never criticize the NAU. Esta mucho bueno, si?

  3. Freelancer Says:

    Thank goodness Montana and North Dakota recently recinded all their calls for a con. con.

  4. NewFederalist Says:

    Is this still the convention call the NTU was pushing 30 years ago? That one fell short but was supposed to be for the sole purpose of passing a Balanced Budget Amendment. Is this the same deal?

  5. Freelancer Says:

    There was an effort back in the 70’s to call a con. con. for the Equal Rights Amendment. That convention almost happend, but Congress passed the Amendment instead.

  6. MPM Says:

    Given a new constitutional convention, would the states really take power away from themselves? I doubt it

  7. DonaldRaymondLake Says:

    Would the bible thumping, anti gays, anti abortionists get around to saying any thing about the constitution? Hmmmmmmmmm. Why is Chuck being so clear and reasonable AFTER THE ELECTION?

  8. Don Grundmann Says:

    Donald : The Constitution Party, as with its candidate Chuck Baldwin, has ALWAYS been talking about the Constitution as have the ” bible thumping, anti gays, anti abortionists.” You simply have to listen. Best to you,

    Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  9. DonaldRaymondLake Says:

    Doctor Grundman: thank you for your on support of abused veterans, including your 2002 national convention speech——and it’s standing ovation! How ever, you faulty defense of CP’s weak stands on constitutionality and veterans issues does not jibe with my personal first hand experience.

    Take Jim King of San Bermardino, PLEASE! Jim has been aware of the worst veterans home on the planet [Barstow] since 1998! He cares not for air breathing humans. If you ain’t a fetus, he has no cocern. I know this personally!

    Listening? The whispering of constitutional issues and subsequent failure to link with potential allies while shouting anti gay and anti abortion tirades is merely selective memory and not the way to win arguments.

    You have copies of letters to me at Barstow from as early as 1999! “Our state treasurer is an ‘inmate’ [your guy’s word not mine] at Yountville and he has seen no problems’ Yeah, right, sure. Just before the deaths [including Citizens For A Better Veterans Home found Richard Oliver Sewell], the law suits, my abuse, and the $11M funds with held in 2001 and 2002 due to lack of appropriate care at Barstow [and for only the second time in federal history]! You guys are really ‘spot on;!

    Keep on denying it doc! I’ll dig up the documentation and post it! Shame, you should know better….....

    Listening? To what, the whispers among the shouting? Get real!

    The 2008 CP and it’s national veterans committee? Admittedly merely a recruiting tool for the party. Five ‘talking points’——- and not one spot lighting veterans issues! Get real Don!

  10. Maynard Says:

    Well, it’s worth pointing out that “veterans’ homes” are yet another symptom of the military-industrial complex and one of the fourteen signs that a nation is a fascist one. Where are the “laborers’ homes”? The “mothers’ homes”? Why glorify state-sponsored terrorists above all others?

  11. DonaldRaymondLake Says:

    And short cutting veterans projects is just another way to spend war activities on ‘the cheap’!

  12. END the EMPIRE Says:

    Almost forgot

    CP on
    US Constitution, Article 4, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; James Madison: “When we are considering the advantages that may result from an easy mode of naturalization, we ought also to consider the cautions necessary to guard against abuses … aliens might acquire the right of citizenship, and return to the country from which they came, and evade the laws intended to encourage the commerce and industry of the real citizens and inhabitants of America, enjoying at the same time all the advantages of citizens…”
    We affirm the integrity of the international borders of these United States and the Constitutional authority and duty of the federal government to guard and to protect those borders, including the regulation of the numbers and of the qualifications of immigrants into the country.

    Each year approximately one million legal immigrants and almost as many illegal aliens enter these United States. These immigrants - including illegal aliens - have been made eligible for various kinds of public assistance, including housing, education, Social Security, and legal services. This unconstitutional drain on the federal Treasury is having a severe and adverse impact on our economy, increasing the cost of government at federal, state, and local levels, adding to the tax burden, and stressing the fabric of society. The mass importation of people with low standards of living threatens the wage structure of the American worker and the labor balance in our country.

    We oppose the abuse of the H-1B and L-1 visa provisions of the immigration act which are displacing American workers with foreign.

    We favor a moratorium on immigration to these United States, except in extreme hardship cases or in other individual special circumstances, until the availability of all federal subsidies and assistance be discontinued, and proper security procedures have been instituted to protect against terrorist infiltration.

    We also insist that every individual group and/or private agency which requests the admission of an immigrant to the U.S, on whatever basis, be required to commit legally to provide housing and sustenance for such immigrants, bear full responsibility for the economic independence of the immigrants, and post appropriate bonds to seal such covenants.

    The Constitution Party demands that the federal government restore immigration policies based on the practice that potential immigrants will be disqualified from admission to the U.S. if, on the grounds of health, criminality, morals, or financial dependence, they would impose an improper burden on these United States, any state, or any citizen of these United States.

    We oppose the provision of welfare subsidies and other taxpayer-supported benefits to illegal aliens, and reject the practice of bestowing U.S. citizenship on children born to illegal alien parents while in this country.

    We oppose any extension of amnesty to illegal aliens. We call for the use of U.S. troops to protect the states against invasion.

    We oppose bilingual ballots. We insist that those who wish to take part in the electoral process and governance of this nation be required to read and comprehend basic English as a precondition of citizenship. We support English as the official language for all governmental business by these United States.

  13. Catholic Trotskyist Says:

    Congratulations, this site just barely lived to see the end of the Bush administration and the beginning of the glorious Obama Socialist Christian Revolution. Is it gone for good now? Exciting.

  14. END the EMPIRE Says:

    I tried to post this earlier
    Boycott Absolut Vodka.:

    The New Faces Of Racism! :

  15. DonaldRaymondLake Says:

    Is it gone for good now?
    Conceived on a faulty pretense,
    where Libs and right wingers
    mention ‘reformers’ and patriots
    and what they mean is Libertarian
    ‘reformers’ and the most narrow
    style of hemogoney imaginable.
    Where the founders named them
    selves [TPW] and [IPR] after the
    broadest horizons conceivable while
    pursuing the most narrow of goals !

    Is it gone? Now? Good! [Riddance!]

  16. Paul K. Says:

    Citing “World Daily Net” as an authority is somewhat questionable.

    I agree however that a new convention, in light of the past 8 years and current situation, would be highly dangerous.

    You can’t limit it’s action like Louis XVI thought when he called the Estates General once organized anything goes. Similar situation today - it’s emergency time.

  17. togo Says:

    Why don’t the major “third parties” form a coalition to get PR adopted for election of state legislators in one or more states. This could be achievable
    in some states that have initiative/referendum. Since PR is the Israeli system you could even slyly suggest or imply that your opponents are anti-Semitic. :)

    You know, when a party actually has elected officials you’ll find that people start taking it seriously.

  18. Maynard Says:

    All the third parties together couldn’t make nearly enough difference in even the most third-party-friendly state.

  19. DonaldRaymondLake Says:

    Maynard [work!] bickering over the details…..........

  20. togo Says:

    Maynard says it’s all hopeless, so why bother?

  21. Cody Quirk Says:

    If its hopeless-

    either go down belly up,

    or go down fighting.

    I choose the later.

  22. Maynard Says:

    Well, I didn’t say it was hopeless forever. The parties are not in a state now where they could do it. If they work hard and build up, someday they may be able to. I’m certainly not giving up.

  23. DonaldRaymondLake Says:

    And Maynard [work!] ya gotta do it the right way or at least the right direction! Viable icons [Teddy Roosevelt], mascots [Bull Moose], truth in propaganda [Mister Cody Quirk], fund raising [Mount Rushmore Picture Mat], least mixing of paradigms [SECULAR Pulbic Administration, Religion, Controversial [and to many, Minor] issues, and mislabeling cross level responsiibilities]* .

    A couple of decades later may votes caught up in the anti Mike Dikakus /Willie Horton bull shit are coming to grips: ah, state governor approving FEDERAL parole on FEDERAL prisoner[s]! Let’s get him out of there!

    A decade earlier, Billy Clinton of Little Rock, ah, state governor with FEDERAL Atomic warheads and missiles malfunctioning all over Arkansas! Let’s get him out of there!

    We’ve lived through one Lee Attwater, a second is not needed—- especially from the alternative non Dem and non GOP activists, candidates, parties, and organizations.

    [Ah Cody Quirk, fiery passion, room temperature IQ!]

  24. Hallmonster Says:

    Spider webs are starting to collect. Is this “Third Party Watch”, or “Third Party Watch - Only When There is a Presidential Election”?

  25. Libertarian Says:

    Wow, it’s sad what happened to this website. Once the center for all Libertarian Party politics on the internet, this site is now almost completely abandoned. How pathetic.

  26. Michael Seebeck Says:

    More Malt-o-Meal, Maynard? Or did Big Bear take it?

  27. Paulie Says:

    End The Empire,

    Thanks for the info about Absolut Vodka. I’m going out and getting a bottle tonight thanks to you! I’ll drink a toast to ending the US Empire and returning the Occupied Territories to Mexico in your honor.

    Libertarian, most of us are at IPR now. Vive le difference!

  28. DonaldRaymondLake Says:
    1. Libertarian Says: January 30th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Wow, it’s sad what happened to this website. Once the center for all Libertarian Party politics on the internet, this site is now almost completely abandoned. How pathetic.


    No, no, no! What is MONUMENTALLY pathetic is that the griping, groaning all the alternative candidates activists and parties put out about the [Gross] deceit of the mayors, only to mimic them at every turn!

  29. Kenny Says:

    Donald is right. This site is dead - killed by the Barrfites!

    Barr, Verney, Gordon, Cory and their neo-con cronies will run back to the GOP . They can take Redpath with them.

  30. Lojiko Says:

    Has this been reported by a reputable news agency? I’ve heard nothing of a Constitutional Convention being assembled except from the tinfoil hat wearing crowd.

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