Nader launches 22 field offices

This from independent candidate Ralph Nader’s presidential campaign:

As part of its get-out-the-vote effort, the Nader/Gonzales Campaign is adding 22 offices and nearly 50 field-staff staff to its base of thousands of volunteers this week, aiming at securing votes in 49 states. A map of all office locations is available at www.votenader.org.

Recent polls indicate that a growing number of independent voters are moving away from the two parties in the wake of last week’s Wall Street bailout. The Wall Street Journal and CNN put Nader’s support at 5 and 6 per cent in this third presidential campaign, despite having been excluded from the presidential debates so far. Offices are opening in swing states such as Florida, Colorado, and Pennsylvania, as well as states like Illinois, where Obama is polling at 56 per cent and McCain at 36.

26 Responses to “Nader launches 22 field offices”

  1. Jonathan Says:

    http://www.nolanchart.com/article5127.html It is good news as it means support for someone other than McBama is growing. Hopefully it is a signal that America is waking up

  2. Joseph the Libertarian Says:

    Too bad Americans choose to side with socialist Nader. They will never learn, Americans are stupid.

  3. Johnny Says:

    Yes Americans are so stupid because they disagree with you right Joe? Yeah…right.

  4. disinter Says:

    Meanwhile, Barf launches a Book (as predicted by moi) so that he can profit off the stupid, gullible fucks that supported his faux campaign.

  5. Joseph the Libertarian Says:

    Yeah, I know you’re really a commie, disinter.

  6. Joseph the Libertarian Says:

    John, I’m always right, so yes.

  7. Miasm Says:

    Hey Joe,

    If Nader is a socialist than what are the other two major parties? They gave us the worst kind of socialism. Where the tax payer has to bail out corporate greed. Nader is proposing a much smaller form of socialism that only helps the people in America that need it. He is against the bailout and for single payer health care. Which we already spend over $7000 dollars per capita for health care. Which is more than most countries who have a single payer system. I call that SMART socialism.

  8. JT Says:

    Miasm: “I call that SMART socialism.”

    Contradict yourself much?

  9. Miasm Says:

    JT - when we ALREADY spend the money for something we could ALL get - I don’t understand how that is not smart socialism. I guess we should eradicate libraries, police departments, fire stations and public schools as well.. since they are all social programs.

  10. sham debate Says:

    John McCain is used to force the election of Barack Obama.
    Barack Obama forced you to pay for Wall Street’s bailout.

    Stop the extortion, blackmail, bribery, and division;
    Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, and Cynthia McKinney.

    “The two parties should be
    almost identical, so that
    the American people can
    ‘throw the rascals out’
    at any election without
    leading to any profound or
    extensive shifts in policy.”

    - Carol Quigley

  11. Derek Says:

    I have a feeling that this idea is a good one for Nader’s campaign. Could you imagine if, after Ron Paul’s announcement for the third party tickets to come together with a common agreement, there would be ways to divide the states by campaign? You know, Nader, Barr, Baldwin and McKinney would each run in 12 or 13 states each. Have the local third parties come together and support 1 candidate’s campaign.

  12. montag Says:

    The majority of Americans agree with Nader’s positions on the issues. Does that mean that we’re all socialists? Then so be it! I’m sick to death of hearing aboout how free market capitalism is the best system in the world. Oh yeah? Look around you - free market capitalism is destroying America.

    “Barack Obama and John McCain are about as different as McDonald’s and Burger King. One may be better than the other, but neither is good for you.”

    Go Nader/Gonzalez ‘08
    votenader.org

  13. Jonathan Says:

    Nader is a capitalist and has never referred himself as a socialist. If he was a socialist he would be in favor of a bailout for one. There are many other examples but you people only know one thing and that is to exagerate and smear.

    BTW here is a quote from Abraham Lincoln on Bailouts:
    http://www.nolanchart.com/article5157.html

    click on thumbs up if you like it

  14. paul Says:

    free market capitalism is destroying America.

    The system in America is capitalistic/corporatist, but it is not a free market.

    I guess we should eradicate libraries, police departments, fire stations and public schools as well.. since they are all social programs.

    Privatize, not eradicate.

  15. JT Says:

    Montag: “Look around you - free market capitalism is destroying America.”

    I hate to be the one to break this to you, but America does NOT have anything like “free-market capitalism.” America has an economy that’s half free enterprise and half government controls. Sure, some sectors are more free than others are. But overall, government constitutes a lot of the economy in this country, though less than in many other countries. So saying that “free-market capitalism” has failed in the United States makes no sense.

  16. Miasm Says:

    Paul: Sorry but privatizing everything is just as bad as socializing everything. we need a balance. Look where it got us when we decided to privatize the Federal National Mortgage Association (known today as Fannie Mae). If you start to privatize everything and these companies start getting greedy with power you are going to run into problems. I don’t want my libraries privatized.. that’s stupid.. I can imagine it now - Libraries full of books that corporations want you to read. There has to be a balance. Nader is the only candidate that understands that.

  17. Impeach Bush Says:

    Hey Joe the Libertarian, please explain how Nader is a socialist. You seem to have alot of blunt actusations on this site.

  18. JT Says:

    Miasm: “I don’t want my libraries privatized.. that’s stupid.. I can imagine it now - Libraries full of books that corporations want you to read.”

    Riiiiight…because Borders and Barnes & Noble don’t carry books that attack corporations or criticize US business. Hell, they even carry Ralph Nader’s books.

    Try reading a good economics book sometime to learn about how a free market actually works instead of how Ralph Nader fantasizes it works.

  19. Jeremy Bauserman Says:

    Ralph thanks for the past 8 years. They have been good to me.

  20. DebbieKat Says:

    I don’t really have a problem with socialism. I don’t see why that’s such a negative concept to some on here. I agree with the other poster. We need a balance. There are things that have been privatized that aren’t working so well for us: prisons, the military industrial complex and the federal reserve come to mind.

    I’ve stated this before elsewhere on here… The goal of business is growth. If there are industries that you don’t want to see growth in, I don’t think you want to privatize those. Does anyone want to see more prisons? More wars? Less control of our own money? Not me.

    Go Nader.

  21. DebbieKat Says:

    Also, regarding capitalism, corporatism and free markets… It is a fact that our economy has devolved into this mess due to deregulation or lack of enforcement of regulations. How would a “truly free market” have left us better off? Do you not think that there would be greedy ceo’s in a free market? How would you have prevented such extravagance? Just curious.

  22. Miasm Says:

    JT: So you don’t believe that can happen.. you probably also don’t believe that privatized media censors certain news and certain views such as not allowing 3rd party candidates in debates and interviewing them on their networks? I believe in privatizing but their needs to be law and order for the corporations who run wild just as much as their is for street crime.

  23. paul Says:

    Sorry but privatizing everything is just as bad as socializing everything. we need a balance. Look where it got us when we decided to privatize the Federal National Mortgage Association (known today as Fannie Mae). If you start to privatize everything and these companies start getting greedy with power you are going to run into problems. I don’t want my libraries privatized.. that’s stupid.. I can imagine it now - Libraries full of books that corporations want you to read. There has to be a balance. Nader is the only candidate that understands that.

    You are assuming corporations as you understand them would continue to exist without the state. They would not. Corporations exist by state charter, they get corporate personhood and nonconcensual limited liability from the state. They get eminent domain, corporate welfare, and bailouts. Basically, the state allows them to avoid responsibility for their actions (by state I mean regime). If businesses had to compete in a free market and their owners had full responsibility for their actions, they would have to act a lot more with care for people, the planet, etc.

    Also, a true free market does not mean everything would be done for profit. There would still be all kinds of non-profit and cooperative communal efforts, in fact there would be a lot more of them, but they would not be funded at the point of a gun. All sorts of groups would have libraries and reading rooms, including you and as many friends as you could organize if you wish.

    Phony privatization under the corporatist-capitalist system has nothing to do with a free market or voluntaryist society, which is the same thing.

    There are things that have been privatized that aren’t working so well for us: prisons, the military industrial complex and the federal reserve come to mind.

    Those are coercively funded. What does that have to do with freedom? And, are they personally responsible for their actions? I think not.

    It is a fact that our economy has devolved into this mess due to deregulation or lack of enforcement of regulations.

    No, quite the opposite.

    How would a “truly free market” have left us better off? Do you not think that there would be greedy ceo’s in a free market? How would you have prevented such extravagance? Just curious.

    By making people who own companies responsible for the actions of those companies. Also, big companies get and stay big through government favoritism of all sorts. The military industrial complex is one example. Eminent domain and corporate welfare is another. Taxes and regulations of all sorts make it much harder for people to strike out on their own as a small business, rather than be corporate employees. Tying health care to employment also was part of that.

    See

    http://ruwart.com/Healing/ruwart_all.html

    and

    http://praxeology.net/anarcres.htm

    to learn more.

  24. Miasm Says:

    Paul, I see what you’re saying and I understand. In some kind of Utopian world that is far away from where we are now, that might make sense. But there are a lot of corporations who have a massive head start in your game. And who is going to hold them accountable when they keep stuffing propaganda down our throats and people keep buying it? When companies are at the point where they are today where they control so much of the market they are not going to be in much competition with anyone else. We need a government that the people control to hold those corporations accountable right now. And right now Nader would be the bridge to your Utopian society. But right now we need a lot of regulation.. And people need to be given a chance.

  25. paul Says:

    And who is going to hold them accountable when they keep stuffing propaganda down our throats and people keep buying it?

    Certainly not the organization that creates them, charters them and empowers them, gives them a big leg up on small business competitors because they are “too big to fail” etc.

    When companies are at the point where they are today where they control so much of the market they are not going to be in much competition with anyone else.

    You’re right. There is only one thing which is even less competitive, tho. That would be…yep, the government. We need some serious antitrust activity there. Who’s with me?

    We need a government that the people control to hold those corporations accountable right now.

    Talk about utopian!

    But right now we need a lot of regulation..

    As long as it’s mutually voluntary/self regulation, I’m all with you.

    And people need to be given a chance.

    ...to give government a death with dignity.

  26. Richgriffin Says:

    Really glad to hear that Nader has 22 offices around the country I’m so looking forward to voting for him (again) on November 4th! (Cynthia McKinney is a great candidate to vote for, too).

    There is no way I’d ever support Libertarians or Constitution party candidates, and I would not be in favor of “unifying” with those I disagree with vehemently. I agree with those that call for more balance, though. Taking away personhood for corporations is a really good idea we can agree on.

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