ADVISORY: Bob Barr to host press conference Monday, 5/12 to discuss plans, 2008 elections

From the Barr 2008 Presidential Exploratory Committee:

Former Georgia Congressman Bob Barr will hold a press conference on Monday May 12 to discuss his future plans and the 2008 election. Rep. Barr (bio here) launched an exploratory committee last month to determine whether he should file as a candidate for the Libertarian Party’s presidential nomination.

Who: Former Georgia Congressman Bob Barr

What: press conference

When: 11:00am ET on Monday May 12, 2008

Where: Zenger Room at the National Press Club, 529 14th Street, NW, Washington, DC

80 Responses to “ADVISORY: Bob Barr to host press conference Monday, 5/12 to discuss plans, 2008 elections”

  1. Hugh Jass Says:

    I take it that he will be announcing his candidacy on May 12.

  2. Yank Says:

    Will there be ass?

  3. Free Al. Says:

    If he is to have any hope of getting the nomination, he better declare BEFORE the convention. Waiting until the convention signals a lack of seriousness and comitment, which the LP desperatly needs in a canidate if it is to make any inpact on the election. Personally, I support Ruwart, reguardless of the fuss made over some comments in one of her books.

  4. Yank Says:

    When will I find ass?

  5. Peter Orvetti Says:

    I’m guessing he’s in—probably wouldn’t go to all the trouble just to say, “Sorry, no, maybe next time.”

    Or maybe he just likes the National Press Club. I like the restaurant there…

  6. Tom Bryant Says:

    I doubt he would host a press conference to say he’s not running. That would probably be best done quietly, as to not draw attention to what could be seen as a failed exploration.

  7. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Interesting. When it was generally understood that Barr was going to “make an announcement” at the Heartland Conference last month, he instead chose the drama of an “Exploratory Committee” rather thanan outright announcement to run.

    Now, with more drama (drum roll, please) it appears that Barr WILL declare as a candidate, or he will declare that he is not. One would think that an announcement at the NPC would indicate that he WILL declare to be a candidate, but since that is the perception, the flair for the dramatic might just as easily be the opposite!

  8. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Maybe Barr will just announce that he opposes the Postal Service rate hike taking effect on May 12th!

  9. Jason Gatties Says:

    About time.

  10. Susan Hogarth Says:

    He’s going to announce his support for Alan Keyes.

  11. Stefan Says:

    Personally I think it is a strategically good move to first announce an “exploratory committee” and get media coverage since that and then with a possible announcement on Monday, even more additionally for the LP. If he had announced a months ago, he may not have gotten so much coverage and he both has already received and will receive. He could also use the time to raise money and “test the waters”, both inside the LP and also outside, to see what appeal he can get outside and introduce more people to the LP. And the Press Club in DC is probably the best way to announce that, than during the Heartland Conference, as there will be much more journalists and interest involve, while all the prefatory work in terms of video etc has been done. It is important that he acts as a team player also.

  12. Mike Theodore Says:

    He has campaign people to monitor this site, most likely (Steve Gordon himself, maybe). I guess all the people saying that they would not support him if he announced too late got to him. He’s pulling a late version of what Obama did. Everyone knew he would run, he just wanted to add suspense and get people to want him in.

  13. Austin Cassidy Says:

    Hmm… the suspense. If he was definitely going to announce you’d think the press release would have been worded with the usual “major announcement regarding the future of his Presidential Exploratory Committee.”

    This sounds more subdued.

    “his future plans and the 2008 election” = maybe his future plans don’t include the 2008 election?

    Guess we’ll have to wait until Monday to find out. :)

  14. John Lowell Says:

    He’s played around too long for me. If I’m ever to vote for him now, he’s really going to have to earn it. I’m looking for a little more courage and risk-taking in a candidate, frankly, and Barr’s proven himself much too calculating. We’re all too used to that kind of thing from politicians.

  15. G.E. Says:

    I can’t believe he’s dumb enough to think he has any chance of coming away with the nomination.

    Hubris.

    Maybe he’ll sue the Clintons again after he loses and blame it on them.

  16. Lidia Seebeck Says:

    He’d better answer a lot of questions both quickly and well.

    The chances of me voting for him have dropped from slim to HA!

  17. Doremus Jessup Says:

    Will Borat be there with his special cheese?
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011002332.html

  18. David F. Nolan Says:

    If Barr DOES announce that he’s finally jumping in, he’d better give one hell of a speech, and state clearly where he stands on the issues that matter most to Libertarians. No more evasions; he has to come out forthrightly against the War on Drugs, foreign interventionism everywhere, etc. If he gives a bold, thoroughly Libertarian speech, he still has a decent chance at the nomination. If he does not, he’s toast.

  19. Eric Dondero Says:

    LOL. I hate the SOB LaBianca. But that was hilarious:

    “Maybe he’ll just announce he’s opposing the postal hike that takes affect May 12.”

    Bad politics LaBianca, but Good sense of humor.

  20. Nexus Says:

    About damn time Bob…sh*t or get off the pot.

  21. Eric Dondero Says:

    No David, Barr does not need to announce to Libertarians where he stands on the issues. We already know where he stands: Right smack dab within the middle of the mainstream of the libertarian movement.

    More than good enough. Only the extremist fringe won’t be satisfied, and who cares about them.

    Rather Barr needs to spend the time announcing his plan for nationwide media coverage for the LP and the libertarian movement.

    Mr. Barr, don’t waste your time talking issues like the radical fringe wants you too. Take that time and talk about real world politics, media coverage, ballot access and how you intend to spread the libertarian message nationwide.

  22. Eric Dondero Says:

    If Barr gives an extremist radical Ron Paul type speech he’ll lose all the support of mainstream libertarians, and especially Libertarian Republicans who are considering supporting his candidacy.

    The LP is already losing support to McCain. A Top Libertarian Party member just announced his support for McCain literally minutes ago. (www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com).

    Barr needs to worry about his mainstream flank and losing votes to McCain. He doesn’t need to worry about the nutty crazies in the Party or the extremist fringe Ron Paulists.

    Be balanced and mainstream Mr. Barr. Don’t blow it by sucking up to the tiny fringe of Radical Anarchists.

  23. Yank Says:

    Susan is a hot smart ass.

  24. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    I think Peter’s instincts are right—no matter how good the restaurant is, you don’t book the National Press Club in order to say “nothing to see here, folks, move along.” I have to think I was wrong, and that he actually is going to declare.

    It’s a shame, really. If he had declared early and positioned himself as even moderately Libertarian instead of hedging his Beltway bets and working like hell to avoid taking any positions at all, he would have had the nomination in a walk. Now he gets a convention bloodbath, probably doesn’t win the nomination, and comes out embarrased, wounded and bloodied even if he does, with little money or time to run the kind of campaign that someone of his stature could have made a real impact with.

    If he had jumped in early for 2008, or waited for 2012, he could have made himself and the LP major political factors. Instead he seems to be setting up to make himself a minor historical footnote at best and a bad joke at worst.

  25. BillTX Says:

    I say he’s going to endorse Impewacko, or maybe Milnes.

  26. Peter Orvetti Says:

    Ok, oddsmakers, in the spirit of Mr. Root—what do you think the odds are on each of the contenders? I give Ruwart a 35% chance of being the nominee, Barr 30%, Root maybe 20%, with Kubby, Gravel, and Phillies splitting the remainder.

  27. The Democratic Republican Says:

    What do I love the most: the people who think this website is the center of the political universe; the people who like to give an actual, experienced politician like Barr advice; or people who like to tell him what he MUST do? It’s a close one…

  28. Fred Church Ortiz Says:

    I’d say the odds are 100% that a white person will get the nomination.

  29. Stefan Says:

    Eric,
    fact is Bob Barr and Ron Paul (whom Barr has on your show described as his political mentor) belong to mainstream libertarian Libertarian and libertarian Republican (and libertarian Democrat, if you like) thought, and proponents of “neolibertarianism” like you belong to a very far fright fringe group.

    “Our National Defense policy must renew a commitment to non-intervention. We are not the world’s police force and our long, yet recently tarnished, tradition of respecting the sovereignty of other nations is necessary, not from only a moral standpoint, but to regain the respect of the world as a principled and peaceful nation”.
    http://www.bobbarr2008.com/issues/

    Barr is using his own words and on par for Paul’s non-interventionist foreign policy everywhere.

    You basically want Barr to be McCain light, sorry, you have Root for that and ain’t gonna happen with Barr. Also: if you want McCain light, why not go for the real McCain himself?

  30. Peter Orvetti Says:

    D-R,

    One of the things I like about being a member of an alternative party is that I can enjoy the “sport” of the major-party political universe more objectively. I do prefer one of the three remaining big-party candidates over the other two, but it’s unlikely I will vote for any of them. But I am an unashamed political junkie who celebrates Election Night like Super Bowl Sunday.

  31. Stefan Says:

    “I will tell you personally that I think it was probably a mistake going to Iraq”. - sen. Tom Coburn
    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspxarticleID=20080221_1_A1_spanc13621

    It is interesting and significant that some of the most fiscally conservative (libertarian) , some also social conservative among Republicans like Dr. No in congress (Paul) and Dr. No in the senate (Coburn) are against the Iraq war or sceptical of it at least. Jimmy DUncan (TN) and Butch Otter also voters against the Iraq war.

  32. Eric Dondero Says:

    Hmmn? So, you take that to mean that Coburn is opposed to the War in Iraq, ‘eh? That’s quite a leap.

    And how is he on the War in Afghanistan? You think he’s also “opposed” to the War in Afghanistan and the overall War on Islamo-Fascism?

    This is a Worldwide War, with many fronts, including Somalia, and the Sudan, and maybe even Yemen. Iraq is yet another battlefield in the Global Struggle against Radical Islam.

    Interesting that Anti-War Libertarians like you Stefan, only mention Iraq, and avoid the subject of Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia, ect…

  33. Eric Dondero Says:

    Stefan, Non-interventionism means Surrender, no matter how you slice the pie. You can put make-up on a pig, but it’s still a pig.

    Stop using the faux phrase “non-intervention,” and have the courage of your convictions. Admit, you wish to Surrender to Islamic Radicalism worldwide. You’re perfectly fine with Sharia Law being instituted in the United States.

    Of course, our audience here should note that Stefan is a Pro-Lifer. So, his socially conservative views are consistent with Islamic Fundamentalism’s anti-Sex, anti-Women’s Rights views. So, one shouldn’t be surprised.

  34. disinter Says:

    Gravel - not gonna win.
    Kubby - not gonna win, although he is at least a Libertarian.
    Ruwart - True Libertarian, lack of fundraising and media attention are a down-side.
    Root - Statist idiot. Although he would be great for media attention.
    Phillies - Statist (prefer government forced equality). Can’t raise any money except his own. Would not get media coverage.
    Barr - Statist flip-flopper. Could raise money and get media attention though.

    The retard caucus should probably pick Root or Barr.
    Libertarians should probably pick Ruwart.

  35. Eric Dondero Says:

    Hey Tom, there is precedence for a “Nothing here folks” press conference.

    Do you remember Chuck Hagel a year and a half ago doing that? He held a big press conference in Omaha. All the DC bigshot media types flew all the way out there for his “Big Announcement.”

    Turns out, with his wife by his side, he just said that he was not planning to run, but would leave the door open in the future. Big let down. The media was pissed.

    Not saying at all Barr is doing this.

    But it has happened before.

  36. disinter Says:

    Admit, you wish to Surrender to Islamic Radicalism worldwide.

    Admit, you do not support freedom of religion. So why do you still call yourself a libertarian?

  37. disinter Says:

    The LP is already losing support to McCain. A Top Libertarian Party member just announced his support for McCain literally minutes ago.

    Umm, anyone willing to support McKook wasn’t going to stay in the LP to begin with.

  38. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Quoth Eric Dondero:

    “Admit, you wish to Surrender to Islamic Radicalism worldwide.”

    Why would we need to surrender to Islamic Radicalism when we already have you here telling us to “shut that woman up” and standing up for the “right” of husbands to murder their wives, just like Islamic “honor killers?”

    Idiots like you are al Qaeda’s staunchest allies in every practical, and most moral, ways.

  39. Michael Seebeck Says:

    “future plans” is political codespeak for “he’s not running”. “whether he should file” is codespeak that the answer was “no”.

    If he was running, the annoucement would look something more like this:

    “Former Georgia Congressman Bob Barr will hold a press conference on Monday May 12 to declare his presidential campaign 2008 election. Rep. Barr (bio here) launched an exploratory committee last month as a precursor to filing as a candidate for the Libertarian Party’s presidential nomination. Rep. Barr will formally anounce his candidacy and address his campaign positions at this press conference.”

  40. Annie Leibowitz Says:

    Dearest Supporters and Fans of My Work:

    I truly hope this Mr. Barr of yours comes out with a statement supporting child porn so I can go about my good work shooting naked tweens. I only wish Malley was a little younger. Her titties are truly over ripe for my taste and I like them a little more buddingly perky. But then again, we can not get away with what we did with Brooke in Pretty Baby anymore can we now that your FBI would be all over us innocent little photographers. I do wish your Mr. Barr would consider eliminating the FBI. Well I guess we in the “industry” will just have to go supporting your Dr. Ruwart until he does.

    Love (especially to the ladies —Hi Susan, you sound cute—what’s your number?),

    Annie

    PS —Check out the video of my shoot! Kisses

  41. disinter Says:

    Seeback makes good points.

  42. Nexus Says:

    I will be interested in what will happen when the dust settles.
    Who amoung the candidates who don’t get the nomination will stick with the LP and who will take their supporters(or supporter in Imperio’s case) and go home.

  43. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Eric,

    You may be right, and Hagel was a good example.

    Maybe Barr is going to announce that he’s not running, but that he’s forming a new policy institute or PAC or some such to address the issues the “major parties” are failing to address. That would make sense, and doing it up right would take some of the sting out of it all for those who contributed to his exploratory committee and so forth.

    So, maybe I’m just getting jumpy. I should probably keep repeating to myself “Barr would only announce if he’s an idiot, and he’s not an idiot … Barr would only announce if he’s an idiot, and he’s not an idiot …”

    Or hey, maybe he’ll show up at the press conference with Shane Corey and Carl Milsted next to him and announce that he thinks the LP is just too completely wigged out and that he’s therefore starting a new party. Yeah, that’s the ticket …

  44. Michael Seebeck Says:

    disnter, learn to spell.

  45. Michael Seebeck Says:

    And yes, that was on purpose.

  46. End the Empire Says:

    Believe it or not a recent Libertarian Lists poll showed a Barr campaign pulls more support from Ruwart than Root. Go figure !? Root’s base support must be solid. It will be an interesting convention INDEED. I personally just hope the ticket can be balanced and a united LP emerges to put up a fight until Nov.4. The LP and CP need to run hard this time. With the problems facing us, the public will give both Parties and all their candidates a listen this time…

    Ruwart 2-1. Root 5-2, Barr 3-1, Gravel 9-1, Phillies 10-1, Kubby 11-1, the field 99-1…

    The king or queen makers are Gravel, Phillies & Kubby ! Who will they guide their support to vote for on the third ballot and after…?

    Has anyone said Ruwart/Root ‘08 ? Root has more fire in the belly than Barr. As VP he would get far more media than Barr because he will work harder to get it. As LP VeepPOTUS candidate he can’t do more damage than the LP can survive. The MSM will blackout whoever the LP nominates this year including Barr. Don’t be gullible about the national (controlled)media covering Barr like they do McSame/OMammy & Hitlery. It ain’t gonna happen friends.

    Absent $35 million for paid ads the LP and CP must rely on positive local and alternative national media and grassroot activism to get their message to the people. The MSM will only ignore (and if their masters feel threaten, then will/) or attempt to destroy any third Party challenge. The quicker each of you realize the truth about the MSM the quicker we can get about the business of taking back our Liberty. They are nothing more or less than WELL PAID lackeys for the powers that be! Third Parties want REAL change, the MSM and their bosses oppose change unless it’s their desired change. I know most of you don’t believe this, after over three decades of research on my part, I suggest you need to start believing…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhZzh83C0iM&feature=related

  47. disinter Says:

    Or hey, maybe he’ll show up at the press conference with Shane Corey and Carl Milsted next to him and announce that he thinks the LP is just too completely wigged out and that he’s therefore starting a new party. Yeah, that’s the ticket …

    The Retard Caucus Party?

  48. John Campbell Says:

    Maybe he’s planning to announce that he’s stepping aside for a last minute Ron Paul LP run. What’s Ron Paul got scheduled that day?

    Hey, it could happen.

    Paul/Barr ‘08!

  49. Peter Orvetti Says:

    Mmm… Paul Bar. I loved those when I was a kid.

    Oh wait, those were Reggie Bars.

  50. Annie Leibowitz Says:

    Speaking about candy, does anyone else like cherry poppers besides Mary Ruwart?

  51. John Lowell Says:

    “Maybe he’s planning to announce that he’s stepping aside for a last minute Ron Paul LP run. What’s Ron Paul got scheduled that day? Hey, it could happen.”

    I mean, really, talk about wishful thinking. Its precisely this kind of unreality, this kind of imbecile enthusiasm among his bitter-end supporters that so nauseates about Ron Paul. I’d be afraid to see him attain higher office out of concern for who it may be that he’d bring with him. How does one get this carried away when the object of their enthusiasm so much resembles someone in the midst of a manic episode who’s gotten their hands on a helium inhaler? Please allow Ron Paul to fade to black, please!

  52. Steve LaBianca Says:

    End the Empire Says:
    May 8th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    Believe it or not a recent Libertarian Lists poll showed a Barr campaign pulls more support from Ruwart than Root. Go figure !?

    I believe it, and I figure it is because Ruwart HAS more support to pull from!

  53. David F. Nolan Says:

    Here’s my present “best guess” on the various contenders winning the LP nomination, assuming Barr does announce. Obviously, if Barr does not enter the race, the odds shift. Likewise if Ventura makes a serious attempt.

    BARR 30%
    ROOT 20%
    RUWART 20%
    KUBBY 15%
    PHILLIES 10%
    GRAVEL 5%

  54. Eric Dondero Says:

    Wow! I agree with David Nolan. That’s just about where I’d put it too.

    Though, I’d put odds of Barr at 40% and Ruwart closer to 15%. I’d also switch Phillies and Kubby. Kubby is pretty much out of the race. He’s just hanging on to influence the convention outcome. Phillies is running full force. So, I’d put him at 15%.

  55. Thomas M. Sipos Says:

    Dondero: “Non-interventionism means Surrender, no matter how you slice the pie.”

    Switzerland is non-interventionist, and they’ve not surrendered to anyone in, what, 500 years?

  56. Eric Dondero Says:

    Hey Tom, whatever became of that new third party idea of yours? What was it called again? Birmingham Tea Party? Boston Esspresso Fiesta, or something like that?

    Wait, that’s it. BOSTON TEA PARTY! Yeah, I remember now. Made a big splash three years ago. Was gonna run the “evil” Carl Milsted reformers out of the libertarian movement. Was gonna return the LP to its radical anarchist principles or some nonsense.

    How come we don’t hear about that Tom Knapp project any more?

  57. brian g Says:

    i’ve always heard that dondero was the world’s biggest idiot, but i’d never really seen it first-hand. i assumed folks were exaggerating, but it’s true!

    i mean, we joke about islamo-fascism, but i think he really believes there is such a thing! LOL!

  58. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Eric,

    I understand that some of the Boston Tea Party’s activists are planning a hospitality suite in Denver, but I’m not sure—I’m no longer actively involved in the organization, which in my opinion is effectively defunct, and I resigned from its national committee.

    Also, of course, it had none of the goals you attribute to it—it was explicitly, almost Milstedianly, incrementalist and it was never clear that it would ever actually attempt to become a “real” party rather than an LP caucus—but don’t let the facts get in the way of a lame dig, right?

    Feel free to pound on the old BTP all you want—at least it wasn’t a false advertising front like the Libertarian Defense [sic] Caucus or the Republican Liberty [sic] Caucus.

  59. Bill Woolsey Says:

    I hope Barr announces on Monday.

    One possible rationale for the vague nature of the
    announcement is the hope for a “will he or won’t he”
    buzz before Monday.

  60. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Well, according to the latest “exploratory committee” fundraising email, Barr STILL hasn’t decided whether to shit or get off the pot:

    There is still much to accomplish prior to the LNC Convention in Denver on May 22nd — and we will only have a few precious days to hit the ground running after Bob makes his final decision.

    For some reason he’s still using a Canadian spam firm to put this stuff out, too.

  61. Jim Lesczynski Says:

    Okay, I just got the email from the Barr campaign about Monday’s announcment, and it includes the following:

    “Bob needs our help and support to seek and win the Libertarian nomination for President.

    “There is still much to accomplish prior to the LNC Convention in Denver on May 22nd — and we will only have a few precious days to hit the ground running after Bob makes his final decision.”

    Sounds like he’s running to me. If he’s decided not to run but is still soliciting campaign contributions, that would really be bad.

  62. susan santarini Says:

    I’ve heard that Eric Dumb Dildo has a record of being 100% WRONG in his picks and that Root cringes at that fact that Dumb Dildo supports him. How about it, Eric, WHY has Root IGNORED you? Also, is your support the Kiss of Death, as everyone tells me?

    Also, Dumb Dildo seems obsessed with his malehood, which most of us girls know is a clear sign of erectile disfunction. At the risk of being rude, I must speculate that his Mexican whore experience has left him impotent and in desperate need for attention and other compensatory relief.

    Please don’t take any of this personal, Dumb Dildo, we don’t want you to leave. You are the Howard Stern of TPW. Well maybe more like Howard Stern’s Ass, whatever.

    Anyways, I have a suggestion for you. There is this fellow who posts to TPW named “Yank” and I think you two would be perfect for each other. That’s because Yank is desperately looking for what you have become.

    Hey, if Yank is young enough, maybe you can finally get to have your secret wish come true and you’ll be able to join NAMBLA!

  63. brian g Says:

    no way, susan! mr. dondero has me alarmed by his hobgoblins and i’m clamorous to be led to safety!

  64. paulie Says:

    The latest I heard about BTP is that they will run Alden Link. They now have several state affiliates.

  65. Sherlock Holmes Says:

    Also, Dumb Dildo seems obsessed with his malehood, which most of us girls know is a clear sign of erectile disfunction. At the risk of being rude, I must speculate that his Mexican whore experience has left him impotent and in desperate need for attention and other compensatory relief.

    Word on the street is he needs viagra to cheat on his wife.

  66. Sherlock Holmes Says:

    “Also, Dumb Dildo seems obsessed with his malehood, which most of us girls know is a clear sign of erectile disfunction. At the risk of being rude, I must speculate that his Mexican whore experience has left him impotent and in desperate need for attention and other compensatory relief.”

    Word on the street is: he needs v!agra to cheat on his wife…

  67. Kenny Says:

    Like Jim, I have received Barr’s email. It is just a plea for more money before he announces his candidacy. Perhaps Bob could enlighten us what there is “to accomplish” before the convention. Just donate more cash? If he does not run now, his credibility is stuffed for good. Bob, you are trying my patience with your prevarication.

  68. Devious David Says:

    I’m still waiting for Rittberg to trot out his “Libertarians for McCain” cunard. He seems to be doing it gradually, but I’m sure the campaign will kick in full force really soon. Corey will probably come out of the woodwork for it and a few other irrelevant idiots.

    I am glad we heard about Milstead’s endorsement… it shows how irrelevant he truly is and tells me that my conclusions and hunches about him were true all along.

  69. Steve Perkins Says:

    My predictions on numbers are pretty much right in-line with David Nolan’s above. I think that Barr will win, but probably not on the first ballot unless Root either implodes in the debates or makes a surprise withdrawal.

    I’m not quite sure what to expect in Denver, this will be the first time in 15+ years as a Life Member that I’ve made it to a national convention (thanks to interest in Barr). However, I have a sneaking suspicion that the Internet flamewars here aren’t QUITE representative of those people who actually put down the cash for travel, lodging, and registration. May not be TOO far from the mark, though…

  70. Yank Says:

    I like real ass. Not troll ass.

  71. paulie Says:

    See you in Denver, Steve.

  72. Eric Dondero Says:

    Sorry to dissapoint you Devious Dave, but I’m still supporting Bob Barr and Wayne Root for the LP nomination. (Might could support Gravel and Jingozian, maybe?)

    I’ll only support McCain if Barr or Root fail to win the LP nomination.

    And if McCain chooses some boring-ass conservative schmuck for his VP like Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota or Rob “Who?” Portman of Ohio, I’ll just sit out the election altogether.

  73. Eric Dondero Says:

    Ahh geez, Tom. And your Boston Tea Party deal was launched with such bravado and fanfare. Sorry to hear that three years later it’s nothing more than a few guys hanging out together at a hospitality suite.

    Who knows, maybe they can even chip in and get a ready-made banner from Kinko’s to hang up at the suite right before the convention.

    Long Live the Boston Tea Party!!

  74. disinter Says:

    Paul/Barr ‘08!

    Paul/Gravel ‘08 would do much better.

  75. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Eric,

    If by “much fanfare” you mean a press release and one radio appearance, well, I guess you don’t have a very good understanding of what fanfare involves.

    We accomplished some nice things. Among other things, so far as I know we were the first political organization to ever successfully hold a complete soup-to-nuts national convention entirely online—national committee elections, bylaws adoption and amendments, program, etc. That was a valuable experience for me personally to organize, and I may eventually have occasion to use said experience, politically or professionally, again.

    I could be wrong, but in my opinion we also brought together some groups that are now, or soon will be, factors of considerable importance in the LP.

    In my opinion it all came to nought as an organization in itself in the end, but I may be wrong—other people are working on it now and maybe their chances are better than I believe.

    In any case, I don’t have nearly as much of a personal investment in touting my resume as you do.

    Your entire assessment of self-worth seems to revolve around “I did X back in 1980, and Y in 1990, and Z in 1996—oh, bow down to me!”

    I do things. I do them as well as I can do them, which is sometimes well and sometimes not so well. Some of them work out well, some don’t. When I’m done with those things I move on to other things instead of daydreaming about what I did before and expecting everyone to bring me cookies and milk and kiss my feet.

    Like Steve Jobs says, “the journey is the reward.” When I was a child, I lovingly mounted my medals and ribbons and had the hash marks sewn on my sleeve. Then I grew up and realized that life is about what I’m doing, not what I already did.

  76. darolew Says:

    “Stop using the faux phrase “non-intervention,” and have the courage of your convictions. Admit, you wish to Surrender to Islamic Radicalism worldwide. You’re perfectly fine with Sharia Law being instituted in the United States.”

    Are you serious? You honestly see minding our own business as a surrender to the terrorists? You honestly think that the antiwar crowd (more than half the United States, most of the LP, the GP, and the CP) would be fine with the Sharia Law being instituted?

    What are you smoking? Must be good stuff.

    “Of course, our audience here should note that Stefan is a Pro-Lifer. So, his socially conservative views are consistent with Islamic Fundamentalism’s anti-Sex, anti-Women’s Rights views. So, one shouldn’t be surprised.”

    face palms

    You could offer a far better critical support of the War on Terror from a libertarian perspective by not being such an idiot. Non-interventionism is not surrender, and principled pro-lifers are not all social conservatives (and not all social conservatives would support anything near Islam law). It’s hard to take you seriously.

  77. Michael Seebeck Says:

    However, I could be wrong. CNN Political Ticker is saying he’s running.

  78. disinter Says:

    Seedick is never wrong.

  79. beer cans for ruwart Says:

    sorry all, a bit off topic. but i feel i need to let everyone know something. i’ve been picking aluminum cans out of peoples trash for three weeks just so i can donate the money i earn to mary’s campaign, god bless you mary, and god bless kiddie porn.

  80. Michael Seebeck Says:

    Shut up, disinter, and grow up, too!

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