Truthers for McKinney

I’ve watched the 9/11 Truth movement within the Libertarian and Constitution Party, but haven’t really observed it within the Green Party before. This call for “Truthers” to support Cynthia McKinney’s candidacy is the first I’ve seen of the sort:

Many people in the 9/11 Truth Movement have understandably been energized by the Ron Paul campaign for President. It was indeed heartening to see a contender for the Republican Party nomination who was supportive of the call for a new, genuine, thorough and comprehensive investigation of 9/11.

However, now that that the Republican race is all but over, and Mr. Paul has indicated that he will not seek to run as an independent, I ask those of you in the Movement (who have not already done so) to please consider lending your financial and volunteer support to former Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, who is seeking the Green Party nomination for President of the United States.

Whereas Ron Paul adopted a strategy of being coy about his support for the 9/11 Truth Movement, Cynthia McKinney has boldly and openly supported the 9/11 Truth Movement, serving as a Commissioner in the Citizens’ Commission on 9/11. She was among 100 prominent Americans and 40 family members of those killed on 9/11 who signed the 9/11 Truth Movement statement, calling for new investigations of the numerous unexplained aspects of the 9/11 events. She took a lot of flak for speaking truth to power—but she didn’t back down.

Here’s the argument provided for people in the movement who may be a bit more on the fiscally conservative side:

I realize that some folks who have been enamored by Ron Paul’s libertarian philosophy on economic issues may disagree with the Green Party’s views on such issues. The Green Party believes that there is an appropriate role for the public sector in our economic life. However, like Paul and the Libertarians, we oppose the military industrial complex and the huge waste of public money and resources on corporate welfare, and we oppose the current ruling elite’s domineering, military interventionist foreign policy. These are surely the biggest single categories of wasteful and harmful government spending. And whatever our respectful disagreements may be on some issues, we are in agreement on the central demands of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Good luck getting any help on that from Clinton, Obama or McCain!

While I’m on the record for disagreeing with people within the “Truth Movement” on some issues, it’s also becoming apparent that they represent a large enough block of voters for third party candidates to consider taking seriously.

28 Responses to “Truthers for McKinney”

  1. James Madison Says:

    never forget….

    mass murder is an initiation of force.

  2. paulie Says:

    Libertarians for McKinney!

  3. Eric Garris Says:

    There are 9/11 Truthers in the California Green Party, including the woman who ran for Congress in my district last time.

  4. Nigel Watt Says:

    I’ve never understood the notion that with all the very good available evidence that government is evil, we must spend our time worrying about controversial evidence for the same thing.

  5. 4Liberty Says:

    Libertarians for Justice is reaching out to the 9/11 truth movement and is working to increase their membership within the Libertarian Party.

    Contrary to many comments made on this website, there seems to be a large faction of the Libertarian Party that seeks a new thorough and open investigation.

    I’ve signed the pledge. Go take a look. www.libertariansforjustice.org

  6. James Madison Says:

    “I’ve never understood the notion that with all the very good available evidence that government is evil, we must spend our time worrying about controversial evidence for the same thing.”

    mass murder tends to grab people a little better than bitching about inefficiency.

    That’s why we used to talk about Waco.

  7. paulie Says:

    James Madison is correct!

  8. Steven R Linnabary Says:

    it’s also becoming apparent that they represent a large enough block of voters for third party candidates to consider taking seriously.

    I’m not so sure that they should be taken seriously enough to stake out a position. But it is a prime example of how little credibility that the government has.

    Personally, I would just point out that the government lies, obfuscates and confuses people on a regular basis. Even when they don’t need to. They MIGHT be in this instance, too.

    I wouldn’t want my campaign to get bogged down on this topic, let alone be remembered for it.

    PEACE
    Steve

  9. disinter Says:

    they represent a large enough block of voters for third party candidates to consider taking seriously.

    You don’t say?

  10. Catholic Trotskyist Says:

    I am very supportive of this. I am a little worried about McKinney hurting the Obama Revolution, but if Clinton wins the nomination I may be forced to vote for her. Most importantly, it means that the Fringe Alliance Strategy is really taking off. I wish that she could take Chuck Baldwin as her vice-president. Also, this is a great defeat for the fascist/stalinist criminal Ralph Nader.

  11. darolew Says:

    Personally, the idea that our government could be so competent to actually pull off a conspiracy of such magnitude has always struck me as ridiculous.

    Depending on the version of the conspiracy, it would require the silencing of thousands of FBI agents, firefighters, demolition experts, scientists, CIA officials, rescue workers, police, airline pilots, the NSA, air traffic control, military contractors, the entire Bush administration, or even the majority of Congress.

    “Loose Change”, in particular, is BS. See:

    http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
    http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

    The only thing our government is guilty of is incompetence.

  12. James Madison Says:

    “Personally, the idea that our government could be so competent to actually pull off a conspiracy of such magnitude has always struck me as ridiculous.”

    you confuse the difference between running giant inefficient bureaucratic programs, and a small number of intelligent people (quasi-public, quasi-private) doing things like plotting re-election strategy or special military operations.

  13. disinter Says:

    BBC Anchor Who Reported on WTC7 Collapse Early Agrees There May Be a ‘Conspiracy’
    http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=8617

  14. Galileo Says:

    Chuck Baldwin of the CP is also an opponent of mass murder.

    Libertarians should be aware that a large majority of all murders in the 20th and 21st centuries were committed by governments.

  15. 4Liberty Says:

    Murders deserve to be investigated and those found to be responsible for crimes should be punished. The victims of 9/11 and their families deserve a new, publicly conducted investigation with full subpoena powers.

    www.libertariansforjustice.org make no mention of who is to blame for the events on 9/11/2001. Support them to request an investigation to determine that. Sign the pledge.

  16. disinter Says:

    Holly shit! I just watch the video attached to the report on the link I posted above. I had never seen the BBC footage before… that is some truly revealing shit.

  17. Andy Says:

    “While I’m on the record for disagreeing with people within the ‘Truth Movement’ on some issues, it’s also becoming apparent that they represent a large enough block of voters for third party candidates to consider taking seriously.”

    Well DUH! I’ve been telling you this for months Gordon. The 9/11 Truth Movement is now much larger than the Libertarian Party and for that matter, the Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party, and the Green Party combined. If every 9/11 Truther in the country voted Libertarian it would give the LP RECORD vote totals. Instead of running away from the 9/11 Truth Movement, the Libertarian Party ought to embrace it and welcome 9/11 Truthers into the Libertarian Party.

  18. Andy Says:

    “darolew Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
    Personally, the idea that our government could be so competent to actually pull off a conspiracy of such magnitude has always struck me as ridiculous.”

    Oh man, how many times do I have to debunk this flawed line of thinking?

    #1) Not everyone in government is stupid. There are highly intelligent people in governnment. This highly intelligent people are also control freaks and they are ruthless as well as evil.

    #2) It wouldn’t take a huge number of people to have carried out the 9/11 attack. Just a few key individuals in a few key places could have carried it out.

  19. Andy Says:

    “mass murder tends to grab people a little better than bitching about inefficiency.

    That’s why we used to talk about Waco.”

    BINGO!

  20. Galileo Says:

    wasn’t Hitler too inefficient to seize power?

    Well, if he seized power while acting as a public employee, yes, but if acting as a private member of the Nazi party, no.

  21. Galileo Says:

    9/11 Truth is a good way to combat socialism and national health care.

    Imagine if they poisoned the entire nation’s blood supply.

  22. Andy Says:

    “Galileo Says:

    April 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
    9/11 Truth is a good way to combat socialism and national health care.

    Imagine if they poisoned the entire nation’s blood supply.”

    Exactly! This is one of the reasons that I see HUGE potential in growing the Libertarian Party by reaching out to 9/11 Truthers. Why would anyone want the same government that was evil enough to carry out the 9/11 attack and then use it as an excuse to launch wars of aggression in the Middle East and to increase the police state domestically to run their healthcare program?

  23. AJ Fan Says:

    There is no evidence backing up the government’s 9/11 narrative. Add to that the fact that they seem incapable of telling the truth and you can see why millions of people would like to take a second look at what went down on 9/11.

    Cynthia McKinney simply spoke the truth. Maybe it was her truth but instead of challenging her assertions the political machine went for her jugular.

    They are hiding something.

    Obama is not a revolution, it is an PR event. Nothing against the man, but he was born out of the Chicago Daley political cesspool.

    Peace

  24. Yeah, sure Says:

    Wake me up when someone who claims to have been a part of the conspiracy actually steps forward.

  25. Tom Bryant Says:

    Try to pin the Troofers down on a specific claim. They like to deal in vagueness so that when one position is utterly refuted, they can cling on to something else. They have some many false positions that by the time you refute all of them, they go back to the first one again - pretending to forget all the info that disproved it.

    The exact same behavior is exhibited in the tax protester movement. Which is why these idiots keep getting themselves fined repeated for the same behavior. Some of the tax protester arguments still circulating today have been rejected for decades.

    It’s no coincendence that many Troofers are also victims of tax protester con jobs. It’s a problem with how the people think.

    The people start with a conclusion, and then will hang on to the wildest thing to support it. There is no evidence that will convince them otherwise.

    What is surprising is how much money these folks will easily part with. Tax gurus have made millions preying on these people. Ron Paul probably received a lot of money from these people as well just because they thought he believed as they do.

  26. disinter Says:

    The people start with a conclusion, and then will hang on to the wildest thing to support it.

    Kinda like the deniers?

  27. Galileo Says:

    Tom Bryant Says:

    April 28th, 2008 at 10:35 am

    “Try to pin the Troofers down on a specific claim.”

    Pin me down, wise talker.

  28. Tom Bryant Says:

    So where’s the specific claim?

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