Potential Constitution Party presidential nominees

The Constitution Party sent out an e-mail suggesting the following people as those who will be on the list from which CP delegates will elect a nominee at the Constitution Party National Convention, to be held April 23-26 in Kansas City.

  • Dr. Alan Keyes
  • Judge Roy Moore
  • Pastor Chuck Baldwin
  • Senator Bob Smith
  • Dr. Jerome Corsi
  • Dr. Don Grundmann

27 Responses to “Potential Constitution Party presidential nominees”

  1. Hugh Jass Says:

    Where’s Steve Stockman? Isn’t he thinking about running?

  2. Ben Miller Says:

    The Constitution Party keeps using these names and none of them, save for Grundmann, have entered the race for their nomination.

    Its starting to look like the CP is desprate for media attention so they keep throwing these names around in hopes of getting some.

  3. Michael Says:

    Smith announced yesterday he would not be running for the Cp nomination.

  4. Mike Gillis Says:

    What’s the word on Alan Keyes?

    Is he going to go for this? Will the CP go for him, with his pro-war stance?

  5. silver Republican Says:

    It seems to me that Moore is an easy solution out of the Keyes dilema. He is also a very big name with possibly more support in at least some regions who seems to have a better claim to be a champion for Constitution Party ideals.

  6. Jason Says:

    These names have been mentioned since I’ve known of the CP. As I stated on Trent’s earlier post, this year’s meeting will tell us everything we need to know about the CP.

    My prediction is this, they’ll stay in house and Chuck Baldwin will be the man decided upon.

  7. NewFederalist Says:

    I emailed Chuck Baldwin and asked him whether or not he was a candidate but all I got from that was put on his weekly mailing list to received his columns. Perhaps nobody on the list is a legitimate announced candidate.

  8. NewFederalist Says:

    I emailed Chuck Baldwin and asked him whether or not he was a candidate but all I got from that was put on his weekly mailing list to receive his columns. Perhaps nobody on the list is a legitimate announced candidate.

  9. Larry Breazeale,Msgt.(ret.)USAFR Says:

    We won’t know until after the fat lady sings. There is also another candidate that we have not mentioned…an ‘unknown’ ...from Michigan..
    “Mad Max Riekse”, Lt. Col. retired, U.S. Army. “WHOMEVER” the candidate chosen, will be a hundred times better qualified than the standard “CFR controlled stooges” from the corrupt monopoly parties.

    -Larry Breazeale, Msgt. (ret.) USAFR
    NATIONAL VETERANS COALITION AIP/CP
    www.nvets.org

  10. silver Republican Says:

    Actually, from what I heard, Riekse wouldn’t be a half bad choice. Maybe a good VP.

  11. John G Parks Says:

    Why doesn’t the CP try to develop candidates from within the party?
    It seems that each presidential election cycle they just search for a big name to fill the top of the ticket. Surely there is some one inside the party who is willing and qualified.

  12. Trent Hill Says:

    “The Constitution Party keeps using these names and none of them, save for Grundmann, have entered the race for their nomination.

    Its starting to look like the CP is desprate for media attention so they keep throwing these names around in hopes of getting some.”

    Ben—frankly, you havent the slightest clue what you’re talking about. How do you claim to run a political radio show? If you studied our party or its history at all,then you would know that the nomination process is filled with lots of “prospective” candidates and very few “active” candidates. This is becasue the party membership largely dissaproves of a long,drawn-out primary fight over who the nominee will be. Jerome Corsi and Chuck Baldwin are both party members who are both open to running,but would rather differ to bigger names. Templin, Grundmann, and Reiske all have no shot. Smith backed off, Stockman and Keyes are still interested—no word on Moore.

  13. Jason Says:

    Trent, Ben did err but he wasn’t totally off mark.

    These names have been used for a while now, though I don’t think it’s because of the reason he used. I think there is interest from both sides but things usually don’t work out. It’s not a very desirable thing to do; running for president as a third party candidate. Without being independently wealthy, and a thing for the impossible, there are not many who find it appealing.

    And so, Smith backed out, (never stepped in to begin with) and so went a shot at legitimacy and notoriety. With him leading the ticket 1 million was a possibility.

    Moore doesn’t seem interested, never has really or he would have when he was a household name. If he does accept if voted favorite, the CP could benefit greatly in just 48hrs of announcing. I think he could actually make a CP ticket work. Maybe even 1.2 or 1.5 million votes nationally. But, he probably won’t run.

    Alan Keyes, to many, is an opportunist and a fake. Besides he will never pass the puritanical gauntlet. To me he is Mr. Constitution Party, but being right on 99 out of 100 on issues is not passing. Secondly, nothing loud that I’ve come across has emphatically said he was in. Still if he could get in, the CP would start out with 250,000 votes on day 1.

    Corsi said last year he was not interested. Secondly, he just isn’t campaigning or presidential material. As smart and clever as he is, I don’t think many would woo after him. However, the Party would certainly benefit with him on the ticket.

    So more than likely, the safe and loyal choice will be made. And that choice will be Chuck Baldwin. He leaves no room for doubt and so surprises in store. Further, he may have to run.

    Like I said on your earlier post, this will be the make or break year for the CP. The talk is over, the GOP has given them what they have been asking for. Now it’s time to see if they can cash in on those bets.

  14. Ronald Monroe Says:

    Thank You Steve, for allowing our members of the Constitution Party to be able to look up the potential candidates together so we can compare them. Both Alan Keys and Judge Roy Moore have name recognition through out the nation. Chuck Baldwin is well respected supporter of our party and needs to be considered seriously.

    However we need to gat together as many delegates to the National Convention so we can have wide open discussion on who will be the best candidate for the development of our party and be ready to add them with finances and action in there behalf.

  15. Red Phillips Says:

    Baldwin and Moore would be great. I consider Keyes, Corsi, and Smith unacceptable.

    Keyes is a Straussian, Lincoln Cultist and is pro-war. Corsi’s columns, while somewhat cryptic, reveal him as an interventionist who is way too heavily invested in Iran. Smith is a GOP retread who is not a Constitutionalist and as far as I know is not anti-intervention.

    Stockman might be OK if he is a non-interventionist.

    They should run Howard Phillips again before they run Keyes, Corsi, or Smith.

  16. Ferenc Says:

    Mr.Keyes and the CO. party.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
    You can’t run a member of the CO. party? What the party for?

    Happy Easter,and GOD BLESS

  17. Trent Hill Says:

    “These names have been used for a while now, though I don’t think it’s because of the reason he used. I think there is interest from both sides but things usually don’t work out. It’s not a very desirable thing to do; running for president as a third party candidate. Without being independently wealthy, and a thing for the impossible, there are not many who find it appealing.”

    Jason—This is true, I take no issue with this. Ben’s error was in saying the CP was using these people names illegitimately,rather than presenting them as true options—which they were/are.

    “And so, Smith backed out, (never stepped in to begin with) and so went a shot at legitimacy and notoriety. With him leading the ticket 1 million was a possibility.”

    Smith backing out was bad. I was really lobbying him to run. But he had familial responsibilities,and that is definetly something I respect, hell his family-man appearance was one of the reasons I thought he’d make a great candidate.

    “Moore doesn’t seem interested, never has really or he would have when he was a household name. If he does accept if voted favorite, the CP could benefit greatly in just 48hrs of announcing. I think he could actually make a CP ticket work. Maybe even 1.2 or 1.5 million votes nationally. But, he probably won’t run.”

    Moore would’ve sealed 200,000+ votes in Alabama alone. 1.5 Million is a pretty low guess if you ask me. However, I suspect he will be leaving the GOP soon,even if not for a specific candidacy.

    “Alan Keyes, to many, is an opportunist and a fake. Besides he will never pass the puritanical gauntlet. To me he is Mr. Constitution Party, but being right on 99 out of 100 on issues is not passing. Secondly, nothing loud that I’ve come across has emphatically said he was in. Still if he could get in, the CP would start out with 250,000 votes on day 1.”

    Alan Keyes has his negatives, as do all politicians with any sort of name-recognition. My dominant problem with him isnt the “Straussian” or “pro-lincoln” crap—both issues that matter very little to both the average CP member or the average conservative. My dominant problem is the War. If he reverses that, he’ll have my tentative approval—although probably not my nomination vote. But should he decide to do this, and possibly attach a long-time party activist to his ticket—he’ll capture the most delegates. As the man with the most name recognition and most media accesibility—he’ll be the favorite.

    “Corsi said last year he was not interested. Secondly, he just isn’t campaigning or presidential material. As smart and clever as he is, I don’t think many would woo after him. However, the Party would certainly benefit with him on the ticket.”

    Corsi said he was not going to wage an active pre-nomination campaign. Everyone in the party knows that Corsi is still OPEN to the idea of being drafted—but that hasnt caught much wind. I suspect his name will be bandied about quite a bit for the VP spot.

    “Like I said on your earlier post, this will be the make or break year for the CP. The talk is over, the GOP has given them what they have been asking for. Now it’s time to see if they can cash in on those bets.”

    This year is, in essence if not perception, the same as all others. The GOP has nominated a moderate-liberal authoritarian who has no respect for Federalism. Bush, Dole, Bush II, McCain—-all different shades of crap. If not this year, there is always later.

  18. Red Phillips Says:

    Trent, the “pro-Lincoln” stuff is not “crap,” and it is not just an issue with grumpy unreconstructed Southerners. What one thinks of Lincoln, secession and the War for Southern Independence is a litmus test for authentic American conservatism. It divides the nationalist who support the modern Hobbesian nation state from the decentralist who support the weak union of the Old Republic as originally intended.

    It is not a coincidence that the pro-Lincoln folks usually support foreign intervention. They are generally believers in “national greatness” “conservatism” and that America is an ideological (proposition or creedal) nation. Hence our duty to spread American style goodness and light to the world. Hence our duty to be global tyranny police. This follows from their mythology that Lincoln was setting the nation right on “Declarationist” principles instead of trampling on the Old Republic as originally conceived.

    Trent, as a famous paleo (before there was such a thing) said, ideas have consequences. Lincoln is not negotiable.

  19. Jim Duensing Says:

    Does anyone know how many of these CP candidates believe in the government’s conspiracy theories surronding the attacks of 9/11?

    We don’t need anymore conspiracy theorists in the White House. We just need someone willing to ask questions. That shouldn’t be too much to ask for should it?

  20. Trent Hill Says:

    “Trent, the “pro-Lincoln” stuff is not “crap,” and it is not just an issue with grumpy unreconstructed Southerners. What one thinks of Lincoln, secession and the War for Southern Independence is a litmus test for authentic American conservatism.”

    Not to the average conservative. To us policy-wonks, its an interesting matter. But it still isnt a make-or-break issue with most delegates. Only a handful of delegates are going to oppose Keyes is he renounces the war and pledges to stay in the party. California, New York, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida will all goto Keyes. 185 delegates sealed. You know why he’ll capture those states (if he renounces the war i mean)? Because we all know that party-building is important. Our state platform and candidates will all remain the same,except with a higher profile and more votes.

  21. Red Phillips Says:

    Trent, Keyes will forever taint the party. It will become know as the Keyes Party. With all his “global tyranny police” sycophantic followers pouring in. Do you really want all those people over at the Keyes forum pouring in without a change of heart?

  22. Andy Says:

    “Red Phillips Says:

    March 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 am
    Trent, the “pro-Lincoln” stuff is not “crap,” and it is not just an issue with grumpy unreconstructed Southerners. What one thinks of Lincoln, secession and the War for Southern Independence is a litmus test for authentic American conservatism. It divides the nationalist who support the modern Hobbesian nation state from the decentralist who support the weak union of the Old Republic as originally intended.”

    Considering that one of the main causes of the war was that the South opposed protectionist tarriffs and that the North was in favor of them, it seems to me that the Constitution Party should like Abraham Lincoln since he was in favor of protectionist tarriffs as they are.

  23. Andy Says:

    “Jim Duensing Says:

    March 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
    Does anyone know how many of these CP candidates believe in the government’s conspiracy theories surronding the attacks of 9/11?

    We don’t need anymore conspiracy theorists in the White House. We just need someone willing to ask questions. That shouldn’t be too much to ask for should it?”

    I know that Don Grundmann questions the official government story about 9/11.

  24. Sean Scallon Says:

    “Alan Keyes has his negatives, as do all politicians with any sort of name-recognition. My dominant problem with him isnt the “Straussian” or “pro-Lincoln” crap—both issues that matter very little to both the average CP member or the average conservative. My dominant problem is the War. If he reverses that, he’ll have my tentative approval—although probably not my nomination vote. But should he decide to do this, and possibly attach a long-time party activist to his ticket—he’ll capture the most delegates. As the man with the most name recognition and most media accesibility—he’ll be the favorite.

    Trent that’s the reason why he’s pro-war. You may think that’s just intellectual gobbeldygook, but I assure you that is what guides his thinking on the issues and it’s no accident. Alan Keyes will not suddenly become antiwar regardless if it wins him the party nomination or not. His views are diametrically the opposite of what the party stands for for the very reasons Red and I and others have stated.

    What Keyes is counting on is infiltrating the party with his band supporters to pick up delegate slots and he’s couting on activists infatuated with the idea that somehow he has an army out there waiting to march to him if he wins the nomination. That is not the case.

    The only thing the CP will be building with Alan Keyes are the legal teams that are going to have to deal with the FEC after the election because usually when Keyes is involved there’s always some problem than manifests itself with his campaign. Good bookkeeping is not his strong suit.

    Did I also mention he’ll use the CP treasury to pay himself a salary? He’s done that before too with campaign funds.

    Look there’s plenty of information out there and plenty of evidence from his previous runs for the U.S. Senate and for President that Alan Keyes would be bad news for the party. Red and I can write until our fingers are numb about his shortcomings both on the issues and in term of the nuts and bolts of running for President. I believe IMHO the CP leadership feels the same way we do and hopes Baldwin or Moore makes a strong bid, otherwise Keyes will win for lack of an alternative.

    Just don’t let it be said CP activists and delegates weren’t warned well in advance. Paleocons will not support Alan Keyes under any circumstances, especially with Bob Barr out there waiting to go for the LP nomination with Ron Paul’s blessing along with his lists of supporters. The choice is for the CP convention delegates to make but so are the consequences.

  25. Trent Hill Says:

    “What Keyes is counting on is infiltrating the party with his band supporters to pick up delegate slots and he’s couting on activists infatuated with the idea that somehow he has an army out there waiting to march to him if he wins the nomination. That is not the case.”

    Pushah. Keyes knows he’ll have to convince OUR delegates,not find his own.
    As for some sort of army—of course there is no such thing. I suspect he’ll a bring a minimum of 48,000 votes (which is what he’s gotten in the Republican primaries,so far) and a maximum of 200k.

    Sean—I think you and Red should unite with me and propose a “Party Building Pledge” which we will ask Keyes to sign. This Pledge would recquire him to NOT accept a salary out of our funds, contribute a “substantial” amount of his own money, and stop supporting Republicans with his PACs.

  26. Andy Says:

    Alan Keyes has had years to renounce the war in Iraq and he hasn’t done it. This should tell you something.

  27. hugh Says:

    Trent,
    You expect Keyes to sign that? He still owes money from his earlier campaigns - and he is not paying that back.
    Unfortunately many CPers will be enamoured with Keyes name - and forget about his ever decreasing support and warmongering attitude. Having Keyes as VP or P nominee will be embarassing for the CP. Embarassing except for his few supporters

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