Kubby preempts Bush on State of the Union

Next Monday, President Bush will deliver his annual “State of the Union” address to a joint session of Congress. Libertarian Steve Kubby delivered his own version directly to the American people via Internet video today.

[Update: A new version of the video with improved audio quality has been substituted for the original]

Full text of the speech after the jump.

Text of the speech, as delivered:

My fellow Americans,

Good evening. I’m Steve Kubby.

Next week, President George W. Bush will deliver his State of the Union address to a joint session of Congress. This week, I’m delivering MY State of the Union address to you, the American people. I’m not the President of the United States, but I’m asking you to elect me to that office. It’s only proper, therefore that I should come before you to offer an assessment of our nation’s situation and answers to the question: Where do we go from here?

I’ve chosen to speak with you before President Bush does so because, like you, I have a pretty good idea of what he’s going to say—and, like you, I know that in saying it, he’s going to be putting lipstick on a pig.

President Bush is going to tell you that the state of the union is strong, but that it can use improvement. What he’s not going to tell you is that we are more disunited than we’ve been in a generation or longer, and that he bears a large share of the blame for making that so. He’s not going to tell you that the US now imprisons a larger percentage of its own citizens than any other nation on earth, or that most of those prisoners are behind bars for activities that no civilized society would consider a crime in the first place.

President Bush is going to tell you that the state of the American economy is strong, and claim credit for that strength, citing his package of trivially small tax cuts as the cause. What he’s not going to tell you is that his administration, with the full cooperation of Congress, has plundered the treasury, driven up the national debt, driven down the value of the dollar to historic lows, depressed the purchasing power of the American consumer, and grown government faster than any administration or Congress since World War II —at your expense.

President Bush is going to tell you that America’s armed forces are “winning” the war in Iraq and that we must “stay the course” thru to victory. What he’s not going to tell you is that four years ago, about five hundred American troops had died in that place, that that number now exceeds four THOUSAND, and that the US-created government of Iraq is even now welcoming members of the very regime the US invaded to depose back into its ranks. Nor is he going to tell you that his party’s likely choice to succeed him in office, US Senator John McCain, has projected that the US might remain in Iraq for as long as ONE HUNDRED YEARS, or that none of the alleged opposition party’s likely nominees are willing to promise to bring the troops home during his or her term in office, even though this war has now dragged on for longer than World War II.

President Bush is going to tell you that IRAN represents yet another military challenge to US power and that “all options remain on the table” for dealing with that threat. What he’s not going to tell you is that neither the International Atomic Energy Agency nor our government’s very own intelligence services agree with his claim that Iran is actively seeking to develop nuclear weapons. Nor is he going to tell you that enmity between Iran and the US is and always has been almost entirely a function of US intervention in the Middle East, including financing the bombing and murder campaigns of terror groups like the MEK within Iran’s borders.

President Bush will tell you none of these things, because telling you those things might lead you to ask yourself what the hell you were thinking when you consented to allow him, his party, and those who pretend to be his opponents in Congress, to exercise power over yourself, your family, your friends and your neighbors in the first place.

I’m telling you these things because they’re true—and because a little more than a year from now I want you to look back fondly on this as the day when you decided to take back the power that Republicans and Democrats have usurped and the freedoms that they have seized.

This time next year, I hope to report to you, as a sitting President, that America’s unilateral and unconditional withdrawal from Iraq began the previous week, seconds after my inauguration, and that the withdrawal will be complete by April of 2009. I expect that news to overshadow my further report that henceforth Iran will be treated as a potential trading partner rather than as a convenient punching bag.

This time next year, I hope to report to you that I must cut my speech short so that I can get back to the work of signing pardons for all those ensnared in America’s legal system over victimless “crimes,” and to the work of dismantling the cancerous paramilitary bureaucracies which so ensnared them in the first place.

This time next year, I hope to report to you that Congress has received my first legislative package, which will include my request for a repeal of the income tax and my non-negotiable demand for a balanced budget—one balanced DOWNWARD by drastically reducing spending, rather than UPWARD with tax hikes or through further debasement of the currency.

Naturally, I will also happily report that your government once again treats torture, detention without charges and warrantless wiretapping as the heinous crimes that they are rather than as the prerogatives of executive power.

I hope to report all of these things, and a good many more. But first, there’s an election—and between now and then it’s up to YOU to decide that YOU want these things too, and that you are willing to support the only candidate, and the only party, offering them to you.

I am not yet the presidential nominee of the Libertarian Party, but I expect that I shall be, or that my party shall nominate someone who will offer, and if elected deliver, these same things. I am running for President; other Libertarians are seeking election to Congres and other offices on these same promises. They—WE —can and will deliver on those promises, if YOU will give us the opportunity. In November, vote Libertarian … and between now and election day, arm yourself with the information you need to carry the day for freedom. Call 1-800-ELECT-US for more information on how to take your country back.

Thank you, and Let Freedom Grow!

43 Responses to “Kubby preempts Bush on State of the Union”

  1. Neo-Con Fascist Fuher of New Age US Socialism Says:

    Wow! This should put the political establishment on its heels. I wonder when Wolf Bllitzer will have him on his show?

    I can’t wait until CNN and Fox News begin to air this FDResque address.

    Look out Clinton/Obama…Look out McCain/Romney….er…(finding his name again)....Steve Kurby…I mean Kubby is in town!

  2. Eric Dondero Says:

    Urgh! He just lost me. I’d never heard him speak before. Awful. He sounds like a pothead. Why is he talking in slow motion?

    If I was running Kubby’s campaign I’d get rid of this video as soon as possible, and have it taken off places where it’s already been shown. This does not help him one bit.

  3. Chris Says:

    Damnit! I’m really getting concerned. I’m agreeing with Eric more and more lately.

  4. Ha Chew Says:

    I like the speech, it is well written. I think it would come off alot better if it was given by someone with “Fire” and “Passion” like (okay Boo now) Wayne Allyn Root.

  5. Chris Says:

    If we could somehow combine into one person Root’s communication skill and fire with Paul’s name recognition and bankroll and Kubby’s policy positions, then we would have one hell of a LP nominee.

  6. Dodsworth Says:

    Chris:

    You just described Gary Johnson.

  7. Anna Says:

    Happy Friday,

    To everyone who has loudly to speak out. The video has been posted about 10 hours ago and there is turbulence in the air. We may judge presidential candidate Steve Kubby by his looks, by his opinion or by this video.

    -Or we can be very happy that we have someone alive like Steve Kubby who only has good intentions and dreams for you and me. Kubby has came a long long way and has given up and committed to making the world a better place.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we would let freedom grow? I get this warm and fuzzy feeling that I could be free. Free from corruption and a government that plays “god”. Tells you how to live and who to be- puts a gun to our head.

    Do we even know what it is to be free?
    Or are we still tied to being someone’s slave?

    I don’t know- but I would love to have my freedom grow.

  8. BJT Says:

    Why do I almost smell the odor of freshly burnt marijuana as I watch this video?

    Kubby is a decent guy and all, but he should follow Gary Johnson’s example and ditch the weed.

  9. Preston Says:

    I’m so sick of people using that McCain “hundred years in Iraq” quote. McCain was just trying to make the point that he is pro-setting up permanent bases there. Though it isn’t a position I (or probably any readers of this site) agree with, it is a respectable position. People try to make it seem like he wants to maximize troop fatalities, when that is anything but true. He isn’t a monster.

  10. Neo-Con Fascist Fuher of New Age US Socialism Says:

    He sounds like a drunk-dialer….3 AM”ohhh maaan…you shood’a came owwt with us, man. We were doing dwubble shots…it was crazy man.”

  11. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Preston,

    I don’t think McCain is a monster. As a matter of fact, if someone put a gun to my head and told me I had to vote in the GOP primaries or die, he’s the one I’d pull the lever for. [1]

    However, if McCain didn’t want that “hundred years in Iraq” quote used, he could have simply not used it himself, first. Kubby did not mischaracterize his position.

    The US has been in Germany and Japan for 62 peacetime years. The US has been in Korea for 54 peacetime years (and it has had periodic troop fatalities due to hostile action in both countries during those periods). Even assuming that the war in Iraq ends in the reasonably near future, and that the ending is not predicated on complete US withdrawal (neither of which is a likely assumption), McCain is saying that he wants that kind of commitment on the part of the US.

    Guess what: Most Libertarians, emphatically including Kubby, don’t think the US should still have troops in Germany, Japan or Korea, and most Libertarians, emphatically including Kubby, object to the idea of extending the German, Japanese or Korean model into Iraq.

    Regards,
    Tom Knapp

    [1] Any son of a bitch who can break both arms and a leg falling out of the sky into Hanoi, undergo 5 1/2 years as a POW REFUSING early release before those who were captured before him, hold out for four days of bone- and tooth-breaking torture before signing a “confession” and even then making it obvious that the “confession” WAS forced, then take additional YEARS of intermittent torture without even giving his tormentors THAT much again, then come back home with his hair white and unable to raise his arms over his head and guts himself back through a flight physical and carrier landing qualification has nothing left to prove to me—he’s worthy, at the very least, of my respect on grounds of character. When McCain walks onto the stage, every one of his GOP opponents instantly becomes a midget by comparison. He is one of two former POWs running for president. I’m supporting the other one because the other one is the one whose policy positions I agree with to a far greater extent.

  12. jre Says:

    Good job Steve, please continue keeping your candidacy in the public eye. It’s important that when we go to Denver that the pro-war candidates finish behind both Steve and George.

  13. Chris Says:

    You just described Gary Johnson.

    I wish. However, Gary Johnson is not running for President.

    He is one of two former POWs running for president.

    I’m assuming you mean that Kubby was a prisoner of the Drug War?

  14. Ghoststrider Says:

    It’s “Let Freedom Ring” you dork.

  15. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Chris,

    Yes. If the US government is going to describe its counter-narcotics activities as a “war”—and it does, and as one of its former drug warriors I find that description accurate—then their prisoners are entitled to be described as POWs.

    While Kubby’s experience as a POW was probably marginally less grueling than McCain’s in certain respects, it was similar in overall character, to the extent that it put him near death several times.

    I respect the moral fiber of a person who believes strongly enough in the cause he or she serves that he or she will undergo punishment, imprisonment and torture rather than forsake that cause. In that respect, my esteem for Kubby and McCain is very similar.

    However, Kubby is a thoroughgoing libertarian, while McCain is very marginally so if at all (the Republican Liberty Caucus did rate him as a “Libertarian,” and the most so in the US Senate, one year). So, there it is.

    I can respect McCain while disagreeing with him, but I can’t support him (at least unless that hypothetical gunpoint scenario came to pass; then I guess we’d find out whether I have the same moral fiber as McCain and Kubby). I neither respect, nor could I support, any of the ridiculous GOP dwarves presuming to stand next to McCain and proclaim themselves his equal, let alone his superior.

  16. Andy Says:

    “Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    January 25th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
    Preston,

    I don’t think McCain is a monster. As a matter of fact, if someone put a gun to my head and told me I had to vote in the GOP primaries or die, he’s the one I’d pull the lever for. [1]”

    The fact that you’d support John McCain over Ron Paul illustrates your complete lack of credibility. So John McCain was a POW, that’s a shame for him but it doesn’t qualify him to be President or to hold any other elected office. The fact of the matter is that John McCain has a horrible record from a pro-liberty standpoint. In fact, I’d say that given his actions as a Senator, if justice were to be served McCain would be back in a prison camp for the rest of his life.

  17. Andy Says:

    “I can respect McCain while disagreeing with him, but I can’t support him (at least unless that hypothetical gunpoint scenario came to pass; then I guess we’d find out whether I have the same moral fiber as McCain and Kubby). I neither respect, nor could I support, any of the ridiculous GOP dwarves presuming to stand next to McCain and proclaim themselves his equal, let alone his superior.”

    Ron Paul deserves far more respect than John McCain. Steve Kubby would do well to distance himself from you.

  18. Andy Says:

    Going by Tom Knapp’s “logic” for supporting John McCain since he spent time in prison, I suppose that Knapp would also vote for Hitler since he did time in prison as well. Like John McCain, Hitler was a man who took a stand for his beliefs and ended up in prison because of it.

    “During the summer of 1920, Hitler chose the swastika, an ancient symbol historically used by many cultures, to be the Nazi Party emblem. By 1921 he had secured virtually total control of the Nazi Party. During that time Hitler also plotted to overthrow the German Weimar Republic by force. On November 8, 1923, he led an attempt to take over the local Bavarian government in Munich, in an action that became known as the “Beer Hall Putsch.”

    The coup was ended after a brief gunfight with Munich police. Himmler, Goering and Hess also participated in the putsch. Hitler was arrested and charged with treason. He successfully used the subsequent trial to gain publicity for himself and his ideas. Following his trial, he was sentenced to five years in Landsberg prison, but served only six months.

    During his prison term, Hitler began to dictate his thoughts and philosophy to co-conspirator and cellmate Rudolf Hess, which became the book Mein Kampf (My Struggle). It became the blueprint for Hitler’s political plans. In Mein Kampf, he contended that Germans should expand east, liquidate the Jews and turn the Slavs into slave labor. Hitler blamed the Jews for Germany’s political and economic problems.

    While in jail, Hitler realized he would have to take control of Germany by legal means, not through revolution. He increased the size of the Nazi Party, even though the government had banned it. Hitler’s Brown Shirts terrorized political opponents on the streets, which discouraged political competition. During that period, Hitler also created the infamous Schutzstaffel (SS), which was initially intended to be Hitler’s bodyguard under the leadership of Himmler.”

  19. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    “The fact that you’d support John McCain over Ron Paul illustrates your complete lack of credibility. So John McCain was a POW, that’s a shame for him but it doesn’t qualify him to be President or to hold any other elected office.”

    I agree that being a POW does not inherently qualify one to be President or to hold any other elected office.

    On the other hand, neither does building a bankroll by peddling gay-baiting race-porn to inbred cross-burners and then lying about it inherently qualify one to be President or to hold any other elected office.

    It just so happens that I respect one of those activities, and the people who participate in it, and don’t respect the other activity or the people who participate in it. If forced at gunpoint to choose between those two kinds of people, I’d choose the former rather than the latter.

    Your mileage obviously varies. I don’t presume to choose your preferences or priorities for you. Pray refrain from trying to set mine for me.

  20. Stephen Gordon Says:

    Godwin’s Law strikes again. :)

  21. Eric Dondero Says:

    McCain? Respect his Military service, for sure.

    But he’s too goddamned old to be President. He presents a horrible image for the GOP: Tired, old, grey and white.

    That’s precisely opposite of what the Republican Party needs: Hispanic, female, Black, young, attractive.

    Of course, there’s a method to Tom’s madness. He wants the Republican Party to be the old white guy’s Party. That’s why you see him coming out for McCain.

    Last thing Knapp wants is for a younger, energective attractive candidate like Romney to come along.

  22. Jay Matthews Says:

    Dondero the ageist strikes again!

  23. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Quoth Eric Dondero:

    “But he’s too goddamned old to be President. He presents a horrible image for the GOP: Tired, old, grey and white.”

    I have to admit, you got me on that one. I had completely forgotten about the trouncing Walter Mondale gave Ronald Reagan in 1984 and how the Republican Party just faded away into obscurity after that.

    “Of course, there’s a method to Tom’s madness. He wants the Republican Party to be the old white guy’s Party. That’s why you see him coming out for McCain.”

    I’m not sure how you get from “Tom Knapp would choose McCain over other Republican candidates if he had a gun to his head and would be killed if he didn’t choose one of them” to “Tom Knapp is coming out for McCain.”

    “Last thing Knapp wants is for a younger, energective attractive candidate like Romney to come along.”

    I’d just about give my right arm to see the GOP nominate Romney, or better yet Huckabee—not because I’d piss on either of them if they were on fire, let alone vote for them, but because either one of them, if elected (which neither would have a chance in hell of accomplishing), would bring the final destruction of the GOP forward by years.

    Saying I like a couple of things about one rattlesnake in a nest of them isn’t saying that I like the rattlesnake, or rattlesnakes in general. Nor is it especially indicating a preference as to which one of the rattlesnakes should get to bite me. I’d prefer that none of them got that opportunity.

  24. paulie Says:

    Chris Says:

    January 25th, 2008 at 11:06 am
    If we could somehow combine into one person Root’s communication skill and fire with Paul’s name recognition and bankroll and Kubby’s policy positions, then we would have one hell of a LP nominee.

    Dodsworth Says:

    January 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
    Chris:

    You just described Gary Johnson.

    Incorrect. Johnson has neither Ron Paul’s name recoginition and bankroll nor Kubby’s issue positions.

    But more importantly, he has shown no interest in running, and the last time someone asked him he said no way. Have you asked him yet?

  25. paulie Says:

    Kubby is a decent guy and all, but he should follow Gary Johnson’s example and ditch the weed.

    You are aware that would be a death sentence right?

  26. paulie Says:

    I don’t think McCain is a monster.

    I do. Specifically, an orc.

    Even more so, he seems to be a case of life imitating art, The Manchurian Candidate. Follow the green links in this second link, lots of info.

  27. paulie Says:

    It’s “Let Freedom Ring”

    Nope, it is Let freedom grow.

  28. Citize ns For A Better Veterans Home Says:

    Kubby the grass roots guy, Kubby the grass roots guy.
    He has ignored us for two years. [Passed out in the back?]
    His organization and web site are as un grass roots as they come!
    [No direct phone line, every thing hidden behind the curtain!]

  29. paulie Says:

    I already told you how to get in touch, so has Tom, so what’s the problem?

  30. Hugh Jass Says:

    “If we could somehow combine into one person Root’s communication skill and fire with Paul’s name recognition and bankroll and Kubby’s policy positions, then we would have one hell of a LP nominee.”

    I am forced to agree with you and dondero. As much as I agree with Kubby, I found him to be quite a monotonous speaker. No offense to him personally, though.

  31. Steve Kubby Says:

    This was the first time I have worked with a teleprompter and I admit it threw me off a bit. I do appreciate the feedback and I intend to do better next time. To my critics, I can only say thank you for your candor and your civility. I know that whatever our differences, we are united by our determination to live free and without fear of our own government.

  32. Eric Dondero Says:

    No, sorry Steve. We are not “united” as you say. Yes, I fear my government. But I fear the threat of Islamo-Fascism much more. Until you adopt a strong program that will deal with the rising global threat of Islamo-Fascism you will not gain the support of real libertarians.

    I give you points for your candor on botching this video production. But my question to you is, since you know you botched it, why are you leaving it out there for others to see? Shitcan the thing. It just loses you more credibility it continuing to be viewed.

  33. Eric Dondero Says:

    Interesting that the Kubby campaign is campaigning again. Guess they’ve ditched the “campaign suspension” over Ron Paul’s effort.

    Could that be a sign that Kubby, Knapp & Crew see the writing on the wall: That Paul’s campaign is pretty much over?

    Why else would they be cranking things up again? After all Kubby suspended the campaign back in October and endorsed Paul’s Republican run.

  34. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Eric,

    Congratulations on finding a new set of false statements to throw out there, get corrected on, walk away from, and then throw out again later as if you’d never heard them before.

    Steve Kubby endorsed Ron Paul in July, not October, and made it crystal clear both at that time and thereafter that that endorsement implied no “suspension” of his own campaign.

    Campaigns get more or less active at various times for various reasons. The Kubby campaign is getting more active now, and that trend will presumably continue and accelerate from now through early November.

    As to your comment previous to the one above, “real libertarians” don’t invent fairy tales to justify taking anti-libertarian policy positions. They just take libertarian positions instead.

    The State of the Union was not “botched.” The candidate delivered a speech, and the content of that speech was the content the candidate intended to deliver.

    As far as the video production of the speech is concerned, it’s only natural that vociferous opponents of Kubby would be desperately seeking a handle they could grab to pull him down into the second tier with Wayne Root and George Phillies. The video isn’t that handle. I ran it past an experienced political media analyst. Conclusion: Kubby needs to get more comfortable with a teleprompter, but pretty good stuff. Individual and focus group response among both Kubby supporters and declared undecideds has been almost uniformly positive. Thanks for playing, though.

  35. Ghoststrider Says:

    Eric, just shut up. You wouldn’t know a real libertarian if one came up and bit you in the face. (Though arguably, that wouldn’t be a real libertarian, but that’s besides the point.)

  36. Fascist Fuher of New Age US Socialist Party Says:

    My fellow Americans,

    Today I come before you adorned not in perils and silk, but as a common man risen from among you, and like you, subservient to a distrustful, paresis partisan republic. A republic which offers no representation and is without a face or a pulse. It is leaderless, therefore, deemed dysfunctional.

    The Great Revolution is about! A great Leader has arrived! He has herd your cries, he is aware of your plight, and knows that the unconquerable, universal will of the masses has been ignored far too long! Through force of will and personality he will deliver to you a country, followed by the entire western hemisphere, that is totally universal in will and opinion. The centre will be established through us and the peripherals will be chopped off like the fingers of a thief.

    He will destroy the two party system, and replace it with One single party, one in which directly represents the will and force of its people. All dissent will be crushed, the old standard eradicated—a dictatorship of the people will rule our futures and direct our destinies. A true Leader will deliver unto us the way to power through unshakable determination and force of will.

    It’s time for the people to join the New Age US Socialism Party (NASP) and forsake the hopelessness of a bickering, divided special interest republic. Join the revolution. Join the NASP movement!

    10-Point Plan:

    1) A sizable police force equipped as a modern army to be instituted throughout the nation in an effort to remove all crime and its existing elements; occupy and supervise the removal of elements in “slum” neighborhoods; followed by a massive public works project in all 50 states that shall remain on going indefinately.

    2) Increase the military to 10 million men and adjoin through conquest, peaceful or otherwise, Canada and Mexico; absorb the regions into the economy as a tax-paying revenue of the empire; Remove Castro and Communist elements and annex Cuba; Combine treasuries and economies, increase the military by an additional 10 million from added regions.

    3) Upon the the establishment of Southern and Northern wings of the empire, Native American citizens will be free of payment of any taxes in any form;

    4) Industrialize all of Mexico and Canada into the Mecca of modern industry. All forms of industry, not limited to, Space, Military, Commercial, Consumer, and Technological Production will exceed that of the entire world within five-years through carefully guided steps; Furthermore, measures will be taken for continuous future growth in these areas.

    5) The establishment of the Department of the External Revenue Service; It is to establish payments from South America, the Caribbean, and other nations deemed necessary, for the purpose of collecting rent and other forms of legal payments for sharing the Western Hemisphere or from other directives by the American Empire and its People.

    6) Within 10-years of stabilizing the Western Hemisphere, measures will be brought forth to subdue North Africa and the region known as the middle-east; Monopolize and Nationalize all oil production for the sole purpose of exporting the resources to the Western Empire and its national purposes.

    7) Through a sizable Navy blockade Europe, freeze all trade and dismantle the European Union; Establish zones and erase all existing borders, governments, nationalities and any forms of institutions; English will be the only accepted language, this language will be the official language of all lands under the jurisdiction of the American Empire.

    8) Establish the Eastern External Revenue Service for payments and other collections from the various peoples of the Eastern Hemisphere.

    9) The Entertainment Agency will be established in England and the inhabitants of England, Ireland, and Scottland will engage in Medieval Warfare—viewing in person or through any other medium will be free of charge for all American citizens.

    10) Promote the following: cultural development in America; modernize all infrastructure; technological advances will be pursued equally from industry and other national interest to benefit that of its citizens; institute free public services, not limited to, transportation, education, health, travel (in original US boundaries only) etc; continue a vibrant market economy through innovation, supply and demand, freedom of choice and individual liberties to the people of America.

  37. Andy Says:

    “Eric Dondero Says:

    January 26th, 2008 at 9:03 am
    No, sorry Steve. We are not ‘united’ as you say. Yes, I fear my government. But I fear the threat of Islamo-Fascism much more.”

    Which is exactly why our government created the threat of “Islamo-Fascism” in the first place. They want to scare people into giving up their freedoms for the false promise of safety. It obviously worked on Eric Dondero.

  38. Jason Says:

    Islam-Fascism is very real and prevalant. Regardless of what your think of policies you need to pull your head out of the sand.

  39. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Islamism is very real and very prevalent in some countries.

    Fascism is very real and very prevalent in some countries.

    “Islamo-fascism,” however, is an oxymoron and a contradiction in terms. The basic tenet of Islamism is the primacy of Allah. The basic tenet of fascism is the primacy of the state. Not only does it not exist, it’s impossible for it to exist.

    A sound policy perspective is necessarily grounded in the real world, not in fairy tales.

  40. dodsworth Says:

    Jason:

    Islamofascism is reall? Sure, it currently describes the govenrments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan (which is executing peole for non-Islamic behavior). I hope you “don’t have your head in the sand” when it comes to U.S. support for keeping those governments in power. Do you?

  41. Jason Says:

    Dodsworth:

    Yes exactly, thank you for supporting my point.

    Thomas:

    The word play doesn’t help your point, especially when you do not show command of the word you are discussing.

    Fascism is not necessarily the primacy of state. It is really a fluid philosophy, and really considers the force behind it. But it can best be summed as a totalitarian system of rule or government, an aggressive nationalism, militarianism and racism outlook. The desire for total adherence to the particular belief and principles. All in which, go wonderfully with the Koran.

  42. dodsworth Says:

    Until that drunken sop, Hitchens, came alone with this revisionism, fascism was always considered to be a nationalist/statist philosophy. The best guide to its meaning are Mussolini and to a lesser extent Hitler who rejected internationalism upheld the state as embodied in an authority figure, hence Egypt, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia fit even better than Iran.

    Excuse if I don’t accept a man who goes on alcoholic rants at events sposored by David Horowitz as an overly credible authority.

  43. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Note—thanks to all of you for the feedback. If you view the post, you’ll see that the video has been updated with an improved audio track.

    Best regards,
    Tom Knapp

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