Draft Lou Dobbs Website

I was scrolling through Hit and Run on the issue which has a chunk of the libertarian community in crisis mode right now when I ran across this gem for the third party community. Brian Doherty scribed:

For them that say a hearty “feh!” to the sort of free trade arguments made by Steven Landsburg, you at last have an all-American horse, shoed by a high-wage American worker, to ride to Washington: Draft Lou Dobbs for President!

TPW has been reporting from time to time about rumors about a possible run by Dobbs, but this is the first time I learned that they have a website. It’s probably pretty new, as some of what I would guess are intended to be meta tags are showing on their pages, currently providing this visual output:

Lou,Dobbs,for,President,2008,campaigns,elections,illegal,
immigration,broken,borders,Independent,draft,Save,America,
amnesty,cnn,anchor,China,trade.

I’m assuming it’s a mistake, unless this is some sort of gimmick to increase site traffic.

At this time, 189 people have pledged a total of $17,135 for the campaign.

21 Responses to “Draft Lou Dobbs Website”

  1. paulie Says:

    How about a “deport Lou Dobbs” webpage?

  2. paulie Says:

    How about draft Lou Dobbs and send him to Afghanistan?

    Too good to be true, I know.

  3. Cody Quirk Says:

    Jesus Christ the man says he’s NOT running!

    Having people bray about Bloomberg is bad enough!

  4. Cody Quirk Says:

    Hmmmm, should’ve put a comma after the word ‘Christ’.

  5. paulie Says:

    You were right the first time.

    The Ruler and God of This World and Age which All Mortal Governments Worship is Satan (A.K.A. Lucifer)

    The Bible is quite explicit as to who it is that really controls all the mortal governments on Earth, and which god is the god that the mortal rulers worship:

    Luke 4:4-8: Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.” And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ” (See also Matt. 4:1-11; Mark 1:12,13; Luke 4:1-13.)

    This is one of the offers Satan made to Christ during the forty days in which Satan tempted Jesus, an event now sometimes referred to as the Temptation of Christ. Satan wasn’t lying when he made the above offer to Jesus: it was an absolutely real offer that Satan would have delivered on. This is necessarily the case, as Luke even writes in verse 2 of the above chapter that here Jesus was “tempted for forty days by the devil”—thus, this had to be a real offer or else it could hardly qualify as a real temptation, as certainly Jesus would have known whether or not what Satan said here was true: if what Satan was saying here were false then Jesus would have already known that, and hence Satan’s offer could not have been the least bit tempting to Jesus.

    How true indeed Satan was being when he said that all the kingdoms of the world have been delivered to him, and that he gives them to whomever he wishes: which are those who worship him as their God! All Earthly, mortal potentates have quite literally made a pact with Satan!—every last one of them has literally sold their soul to Satan in return for Earthly power! As God spoke in Hosea 8:4: “They set up kings, but not by Me; They made princes, but I did not acknowledge them.”

    And Jesus later said on two separate occasions that Satan is the ruler of this world—thus in John 12:31: “Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.” And in John 14:30: “I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me.”

    And Paul in two separate letters writes that Satan is the god and ruler of this age:

    2 Corinthians 4:3,4: But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

    And in Ephesians 6:11,12:

    Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

    All one has to do to realize just how literal and true Satan, Jesus and Paul were being when they made the above statements is to consider that more than four times the amount of non-combatants have been systematically murdered for purely ideological reasons by their own governments within the past century than were killed in that same time-span from wars. From 1900 to 1923, various Turkish regimes killed from 3,500,000 to over 4,300,000 of its own Armenians, Greeks, Nestorians, and other Christians. Communist governments have murdered over 110 million of their own subjects since 1917. And Germany committed genocide against some 16 million people—6 million of them Jews. (The preceding figures are from Prof. R.J. Rummel’s website: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills.) Over 800,000 Christian Tutsis in Rwanda were hacked to death with machetes between April and July of 1994 by the Hutu-led military force after the Tutsis had been disarmed by governmental decree in the early 1990s, of which disarmament decree the United Nations helped to enforce. On several occasions, United Nations soldiers stationed in Rwanda actually handed over helpless Tutsi Christians under their protection to members of the Hutu military. They then stood by as their screaming charges were unceremoniously hacked to pieces. This massacre happened one year after the United Nations helped to put in a national ID card in Rwanda, and it was that very national ID card system which the Hutus used to track-down and identify the Christian Tutsis. Needless to say, all of the subject populations of the above mass murders had been disarmed beforehand.

    The wars and mass murders which the mortal governments routinely engage in are literal human-sacrifice orgies that the Earthly rulers of those governments offer up to appease their God Satan, a.k.a. Lucifer!

    Government, throughout all of recorded history, has been the most methodical and efficient human-meat grinder to ever exist. It is a purely Satanical machination masquerading as humanity’s salvation, but has always been—and forever will be so long as it exists—the scourge of mankind and its decline.

    More at http://anti-state.com/redford/redford4.html

  6. Michael Says:

    This .com website is a phony. This group is just trying to raise more money for ALIPAC, an organization run by Republicans. A group that has a track record of wasting it’s members contributions. Most likely this is some kind of scam to eventually funnel the money to Huckabee and Romney if they win the R nominee and Lou Dobbs doesn’t run. They will need lots of money to flip-flop their records around on middle class issues. If you support Lou Dobbs, sign-up at the sites listed below.

    The real draft Lou Dobbs websites are located here:

    http://loudobbs4president.com/

    http://www.loudobbs4president.net/

    http://www.geocities.com/lakebumcoastie/draftloudobbs2008.html

    These three sites have been around for quite a long time. A segment of the New American Independent Party http://www.newamericanindependent.com
    has had a draft Lou Dobbs movement going on for well over two years now.

  7. Michael Says:

    Sorry for the error in my first sentence. The .org website is the phony ALIPAC website.

    The .com and .net sites are set up by genuine Lou Dobbs supporters.

    It should be pointed out that the Illegal Immigration policy pushed by Lou Dobbs is not the same as the one pushed by ALIPAC. And on the other issues, the ALIPAC stance on issues differs greatly from those of Lou Dobbs.

    Just 4 examples of dozens that could be pointed out:

    ALIPAC leaders push for pro-life candidates - Lou Dobbs is pro-choice.

    ALIPAC pushes for private education - Lou Dobbs supports Public Education.

    ALIPAC wants to remove the church/state seperation - Lou Dobbs is a strong supporter of Church & State

    ALIPAC bashes Global Warming theory - Lou Dobbs believes in Global Warming and urges leaders to address it.

  8. zeezil Says:

    I don’t know where this person, Michael, gets his information but he’s off the mark on everything.

  9. zeezil Says:

    What a huge breath of fresh air should Lou Dobbs throw his hat in the ring. I would definitely vote for him. Not only is he the only MSM news anchor taking on illegal immigration (which he is totally correct on), he has taken on the economy, special interests, lobbyist influence peddling, government corruption, truth in government, religion in politics, free trade and favored trade status issues, national security, middle class erosion and American worker protection, our crumbling infrastructure, education, food safety and inspections, the environment, China’s dangerous imports and its influence on our national deficit, NAFTA, SPP, NAU, LOST, ridiculous government treaties, crime, drugs, racial issues and the list goes on.

    Lou Dobbs has talked about, taken stances on, exposed and researched more issues than any other presidential candidate ever has or ever will.

  10. peach Says:

    I would like to see Mr. Dobbs run because he speaks daily about the issues that concern everyday Americans. The Mainstream media promotes their candidates and ignores the issues that Americans are screaming to have addressed. I do not agree with him on social issues, but the economic and illegal immigration issue is destroying our nation and he would be proactive to protect our sovereignty, our jobs, and our security.

  11. Anita Says:

    Lou Dobbs is the best. He’s for America and would do a good job straightening out this economy. He’s all common sense and no fluff. Just what we need with the serious financial problems we have in this country.

  12. William Gheen Says:

    This guy Michael runs another Lou Dobbs website and apparently he is showing his butt because he is upset someone else, like ALIPAC, is also doing a Dobbs website.

    His post above is a lie.

    ALIPAC does not support candidates based on their positions on issues of choice, education, or global warming.

    We had no idea he would react so poorly are engage in this embarrassing behavior when we decided to do a site.

  13. Michael Says:

    I am in no way associated with the other Lou Dobbs websites.

    I would love to see more Draft Lou Dobbs websites out there.

    The problem that I have with your site, is that it is associated with a PAC. Lou dobbs has spoken out against PAC’s, special interests and lobbyists and lobbying organizations.

    No matter if it is your intention or not. Creating a draft Lou Dobbs site will direct more folks to your main website and likely more contributions. These contributions will go towards candidates that do not fight for the Middle class. Some of the candidates that your organization backs or has backed may indeed have a good record on illegal immigration. Some do not. But, they have very bad records on actually fighting for the American middle class.

    Lou Dobbs is much more than one single issue. He is a fighter for the American Middle Class and low-income workers. When your group backs, supports candidates you are more often than not backing candidates that are apart of the assault on the American middle class.

    Basically, your group has been fighting against much of what Lou Dobbs has been fighting for. Don’t put Lou in a box. And his name should not be associated with a group that backs candidates that are terrible on middle class issues.

  14. paulie Says:

    Lou Dobbs is a horse’s ass. There are very few issues he is correct about, if any.

  15. William Gheen Says:

    Michael,

    It is a shame that if you are a fan of Lou Dobbs you are so ignorant about what he is talking about. Lou Dobbs has expressed concern about the undue influence of corporations and corporate PACs. I have been an invited guest on the Lou Dobbs Show three times. Lou Dobbs runs stories we generate on a regular basis. Many of ALIPAC’s allied leaders and organizations are on Dobbs regularly. ALIPAC has been on the front row fighting for what Dobbs is fighting for on immigration. Our organization is multi party and only 45% Republican. Almost 30% of our supporters are Independents. Lou Dobbs was a lifelong Republican before becoming an Independent.

    Michael, it is clear that you do not know what candidates we have been supporting or what their stances are. You do not know about ALIPAC and you don’t even really know about Lou Dobbs.

    Our organization is a populist organization and not one of the well financed special interests Dobbs is talking about, otherwise he would not carry our stories in a positive light or invite us on his show in a cooperative capacity.

  16. Michael Says:

    He carries your stories because of one issue illegal immigration. Just like he has Tom Tancredo on his show. And Duncan Hunter and a gallion other people. But, he did not support any of them for President. He has made clear that none of them are good on middle class issues.

    He has Socialist Independent Bernie Sanders on often too. Because of his good record on Trade issues. He has lots and lots of Democrats on his show because they are good on trade, education, jobs, or whatever.

    But, he is not supporting them in the Presidential race and he has made clear that they are not getting it done in terms of fighting for the middle class.

    I sure do support Lou Dobbs. And I want him to run.

    That is why I do not want a Draft Lou Dobbs effort coming from your organization. That does not help Lou is with middle of the road and left-leaning folks. He needs support from everyone to win.

    Just like many of the Ron Paul supporters on this site stated that they didn’t want their efforts hijacked by the 9/11 truth people. I personally don’t have a problem with 9/11 truth. But, in the public’s eye and the media’s eye, having 9/11 truth appear to be so close to the Ron Paul campaign greatly reduces his chances of winning the GOP nomination.

    Lou Dobbs is already strong on illegal immigration. He does not need a close association with your group - that would not help him in the media’s eye or the public’s eye.

    It is a matter of smart, pragmatic politics.

    Lou already has strong support from your members, I would think.

    He is being painted a one issue, angry guy. He clearly is not. But, that perception will continue if we are not careful. I applaud your support for him. And you have every right to do so. But, I don’t think it is in the best interest of a possible Lou Dobbs campaign.

    Lou would be able to raise money and he would get the support of anti-illegal immigration folks. But, in order to have a chance in hell he needs to dramatically expand his pool of supporters. He needs independents and folks on the left and right.

    His appeal to the general voting population falls when he is put into smaller and smaller boxes. You are helping to further define him. And further define him in a way that is not helpful in a serious general election run that wants to produce more than 5% - 9% of the vote. In a race with a Dem, Rep, & Bloomy, Lou would have the potential for a great finish or potentially win. I just don’t want to see him fall right into the trap that his opponents want him too.

  17. Michael Says:

    He has the crowd when it comes to illegal immigration. Independents want something done with illegal immigration even more than Republicans do. He has the potential to attract a wide spectrum of voters with his stance on social issues and such. Let’s not drown his stance on those issues.

  18. Cody Quirk Says:

    Excuse me but-

    HE’S NOT RUNNING! AND DOESN’T F**KING PLAN TO!

  19. Cody Quirk Says:

    Your efforts are in vain.

    VOTE RON PAUL!

  20. zeezil Says:

    As of 2006, California contained greater than 25% of the total illegal alien population within the U.S. Many of these illegals concentrate in Los Angeles. New statistics from the Department of Public Social Services reveal that illegal aliens and their families in Los Angeles County collected over $37 million in welfare and food stamp allocations in November 2007 - up $3 million dollars from September. Twenty five percent of the all welfare and food stamps benefits are going directly to the children of illegal aliens. Illegals collected over $20 million in welfare assistance for November 2007 and over $16 million in monthly food stamp allocations for a projected annual cost of $444 million. “This new information shows an alarming increase in the devastating impact Illegal immigration continues to have on Los Angeles County taxpayers,” said Antonovich, LA County Supervisor. “With $220 million for public safety, $400 million for healthcare, and $444 million in welfare allocations, the total cost for illegal immigrants to County taxpayers far exceeds $1 billion a year - not including the millions of dollars for education.”

    Just keep in mind that the $37 million a month is for only one county in one state and is only welfare and foodstamp benefits. It doesn’t include hospital care, education, fraud, wage depression, crime, depreciation of housing values, the portion of bad loans given to illegal aliens by banks, insurance costs and the myriad of other burdensome expenses that illegal aliens put on the backs of American citizens. There are 29 sanctuary cities in California and because of that there should be little wonder why so many illegal aliens stay in this state. They basically operate with impunity and even if they get arrested for a serious crime there is little chance of them being deported. They can sign up for welfare and food stamps with no questions asked and the hospitals provide them with free care as long as there are still emergency rooms that can’t turn them away for lack of funds. All things considered, California has rolled out the welcome mat for them.

    Is there any wonder that California is right now in a fiscal crisis emergency with a budget deficit greater than $14 billion and growing? Reliable estimates calculate illegal aliens cost the state $10.5 billion each year! Why not cut all public services to those not in the U.S. legally? Just a simple thought on my part that would go a long way to putting California back on its feet. But, I digress…Lou Dobbs is the only news anchor who has been reporting and exposing this situation in the MSM.

  21. ADOBBS HITLER Says:

    Dobbs just wants to sell books and promote himself. These Gomers are gullible fools.

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