Ex-LP Director to Blame for Iowa?

[Editor’s Note: The writer of the article was incorrect when he implied that Joe Seehusen was responsible for the issues indicated below. I profoundly apologize to Mr. Seehusen for this inaccuracy, which happened under my watch. Actions are currently being taken to ensure that nothing of this sort happens again.—spg]

Should former Libertarian Party executive director Joe Seehusen resign due to the Iowa caucus “controversy?” After all, he was hired to run Ron Paul’s campaign in Iowa…

Here’s the latest (c/o MeetUp-294) from the Pork State, and I’ve included a MeetUp group-generated map that shows how well - or bad - Ron Paul did last night in each county.

Dear all:

I sincerely regret to inform you that today, the [Get Out The Vote] day, the biggest day
of the whole Iowa campaign for the 300 students up here, was completely
destroyed—and the circumstances point towards a deliberate sabotage.

We were told from the very beginning that all of our hard work would be
nought if we didn’t hit Iowa hard on January 3rd.

Our job? Call every Ron Paul supporter in the state (our numbers were bigger
than Huckabee’s), man as many precincts as possible, drive voters around,
pick people up, get them back home, check voters off as they come in, &c.,
&c..

We were told to be ready to leave camp at 9 a.m.
...

We were ready.

But then at 2:30 in the morning, all the camp leaders received a phone call
that the database the Des Moines office put together of all our phone
banking and door-to-door canvassing was totally scrambled, jumbled, and even
partly deleted. All the data was scattered and completely jumbled. Missing
phone numbers. Missing precincts. A big box of random data. Thousands and
thousands of voters.

The original file was supposed to have broken all voters down into counties
and precincts. Didn’t happen.

Each page was supposed to be correlated with precinct captains and chairmen.
Didn’t happen.

We were looking at a day of turning out over 17,000 voters. We maybe called
300.

We picked up nobody.

We manned no caucuses.

But then at 2:30 in the morning, all the camp leaders received a phone call
that the database the Des Moines office put together of all our phone
banking and door-to-door canvassing was totally scrambled, jumbled, and even
partly deleted. All the data was scattered and completely jumbled. Missing
phone numbers. Missing precincts. A big box of random data. Thousands and
thousands of voters.

The original file was supposed to have broken all voters down into counties
and precincts. Didn’t happen.

Each page was supposed to be correlated with precinct captains and chairmen.
Didn’t happen.

We were looking at a day of turning out over 17,000 voters. We maybe called
300.

We picked up nobody.

We manned no caucuses.

Now I’m not conspiracy theory, but I believe there have been issues involving the staff that Ron Paul’s campaign has hired - many of them former Libertarian Party activists and officials. What does the TPW community think about this?

61 Responses to “Ex-LP Director to Blame for Iowa?”

  1. Anthony Distler Says:

    I don’t like to get into conspiricy issues, especially when it deals with a party that I don’t have all that much knowledge on. I would find it odd that anyone would want to sabatoge Ron Paul’s campaign, and extremely odd that it was THAT easy to do. However, if this turns out to be true, this could get very interesting.

  2. Shane Killian Says:

    Alleged sabotage notwithstanding, did NO ONE have BACKUPS???

    Come on, people—backups are a basic thing! EVERYONE needs to do backups! You can even find places online to do offsite backups over the internet for just a few dollars a month.

    Heck, just burn a copy of the database to a blank DVD!

    If just one person had done that, they could have just pulled out the DVD, reloaded the database, and gone with it.

  3. Ben Hodges Says:

    Argh! This is my email that I send out to the Meetup group I help organize…one day later, it’s all over DailyPaul, RPforums, and here too.

    The bottom line on the sabotage:

    It was more immaturity than anything else. The person responsible for the meltdown abandoned ship for ego reasons. He still sabotaged it, but it may not have been too premeditated. People were assigned to back up and check his work and were getting a lot of credit for it in the process. So this kid got pissed because he didn’t think he’d get enough credit for his own work. So, because they wouldn’t remove the people who were backing him up, he ditched the campaign and left the database a mess. Call it sabotage if you want. Call it bull-crap if you want. I think it’s both now.

  4. Ben Hodges Says:

    Btw, that info is “just in.”

  5. Mayberry Says:

    I thinking the fact that your office was in the same building as the Hucklberry people makes me wonder.

    But even if it was them it is incompetence to see how the data was handled. You can buy RAID 1 for $300 which creates perfect backups which can be taken off site without any effort.

    The whole Iowa Campaign makes me wonder what was going on. I think every Ron Paul person will show up regardless if you call them but were there only 10,000 in the whole state? Why did RP not travel outside Demoines? Why has he not made a public statement and you tube of the statement?

  6. Max in WA Says:

    17000 records is nothing in terms of data—unless each entry comprises pages of data, I’m sure a dump would all fit on $10 thumbdrive.

    I manage my own database for my office and while it can be tricky, it isn’t rocket science. And there are some basic safety rules—always make backup—especially before make modifications to DB structure or testing input forms (better yet—work on a copy db till you know it works right. If you get confused by relational concepts, just make one giant row—might make certain programming tasks a pain, but the data is totally understandable even in a raw DB dump, have backups offsite and on, keep old versions so you don’t end up with a corrupt db, only to find its been corrupt for a while and you just have a recent backup of corrupt data—I keep last 7 days, then Mondays for previous seven weeks, then first monday of the month for previous 3 months, then first Monday of the quarter for previous quarters.

    I’m a lawyer and I can figure this junk out at a basic level. Certainly a DBA would be able to blow away my skills, so I don’t understand why there was no backup readily available when it was discovered that the data was bad. If it was input issue, I don’t understand why data wasn’t examined carefully after the frontend was designed.

    grrrr…. I’ve been a bit down today, but this just makes me livid. This is about saving our nation—not personal fame or glory.

  7. Chuck Moulton Says:

    I thought this website would be focusing on journalism rather than rumor-mongering. Did you have any evidence at all to support your allegation against Joe Seehusen before publicly libeling him here?

    My understanding was Seehusen started out at the Iowa coordinator, but was promoted long ago to Deputy Campaign Manager. The Ron Paul website currently lists Drew Ivers as the Iowa Campaign Chairman. Based on my interactions with Ron Paul enthusiasts in other states, it would surprise me greatly if most of the grassroots movement in Iowa was coordinated by the official campaign staff (though I lack information on that).

    I’ve witnessed Joe Seehusen libeled in the past by others when he was LP Executive Director. As a lawyer myself, I’m fairly confident he could have won a lawsuit back then. I expected better from Third Party Watch.

    But if this forum is meant for rumor-mongering rather than journalism, just let me know and I’ll adjust my expectations. I enjoy reading both rumor-mongering and journalism… I just don’t like when one masquerades as the other.

  8. exlp Says:

    The cause is more likely the inept amateurs that Paul surrounds himself with.

  9. Austin Cassidy Says:

    “The cause is more likely the inept amateurs that Paul surrounds himself with.”

    Ditto.

  10. Fred C. Says:

    “The cause is more likely the inept amateurs that Paul surrounds himself with.”

    Professionals are every bit as capable of childishness and spite as amateurs. Refer back to the Executive Office Building keyboard mutilations of 2001.

  11. Johnjacson Says:

    Well they are professional-amateurs.

  12. Jason Says:

    I sometimes feel maybe Joey has something on Austin. I can’t believe the guy still writes for this site

  13. Stephen Gordon Says:

    “I thought this website would be focusing on journalism rather than rumor-mongering. Did you have any evidence at all to support your allegation against Joe Seehusen before publicly libeling him here?”

    My angle exactly.

  14. Ben Hodges Says:

    Just for the record, I have nothing to do with blaming Mr. Seehusen for anything.

  15. matt Says:

    I don’t know anything about this and won’t comment for that reason, but my friend from Coralville, Iowa told me that in the caucuses each candidate has someone appointed to make a speech for their candidate but Ron Paul’s guy didn’t show. This was no rinky-dink minor caucus location either, but rather a place where the voters numbered in the hundreds. Was this type of thing widespread? If so, it could have cost RP 3-8% points easy.

  16. matt Says:

    The map shows that Davis County, the county that Coralville is in, pulled 20% anyway. But it’s a campus county (U of Iowa). Would that number have been higher with better organization?

    Someone told me the RP campaign only set up it’s precint system two weeks ago. That seems like it’s just begging for something like this to take place. For all we know, Huckabee’s guy hit Ron Paul’s guy with the money in the bag.

    Or not. It’s not like there’s any proof yet, and Joey’s been wrong before.

  17. matt Says:

    Ben,
    Who was the person? If it wasn’t Seehusen, who stands accused, you should name names now so as to clear Seehusen’s.

  18. Sam Says:

    I’d like to find the responsible party and give them a life threatening #!~ kicking. Such a thing is near treasonous. Whoever trusted this person should have known better. Make your own lists!! Drive your own cars, call your own people, etc. BACK up files, don’t allow one person to do this to the campaign. We have to fight for every vote we can get.

  19. Justin Mckay Says:

    This e-mail is a hoax. I met Joe Seehusen in Arlington VA. He is not the Iowa Coordinator. Dr. Drew Ivers is. The rest of the story sounds like bullshit anyway.

  20. Rick Says:

    Amazing.. you know alot of the stories reported on by the MSM end with a ? too. this is total bs.. proof much?

  21. Jason C Says:

    Ron Paul is showing that he is not much of a politician. With the amount of money and hard-ons raised for him, 9.99% of the vote is an utter disgrace. Instead of blaming this embarrassing turnout (considering) on whack-jobs, bone-breakers, and back alley deals, blame Ron Paul and his lack of effort in Iowa. Blame his “fanatical” supporters and “energetic” organizers. Bring out the fact that he has more money than the Pope and didn’t even try to blanket the state. He should have went buck for buck with Romney during the month of December. I see a high level of incompetency, not an act of sabotoge.

    I expect more of these type of conspiracy/sabotoge stories and emails to surface each time Ron Paul fails to meet expectations. The majority of Paul supporters are to busy looking up trying to spot black helicopters than the nearest caucus precinct. Ron Paul’s support is mostly made up of Rage Against the Machine fans and angry ametuers. This is the sort of product you get win you mix these elements.

    Did you rally think these folks were going to pause their World of War Craft game, then ask for their parents keys and go out and vote?

    He is what he is and his campaign—A political oddity. Expect more of the same results along with the paranoia.

  22. David Says:

    We have the same BS here in Florida. Our lists should have been up and running a month and a half ago. Our county coordinator set up a really nice voter list system for us, but it was too late for us to register people for the Primary. Then I discovered last week other counties in the state had no list at all. Here we are three weeks from the Primary and and the lists for the state are just now going online. Seems like the whole campaign here in Florida has been a day late and a dollar short, right from the git go! I think it’s the same problem… they hired the wrong people.

    I’ll second that motion….. If anyone can provide me with the name and address of that little jerk, I’d be happy to beat the living crap out of him!

  23. Crickett Says:

    None of this mess excuses the fact that each caucus did not have a Ron Paul speaker, if only for a minute. Some would have been shown on National TV. I do not and will never understand that.

  24. Seilee Says:

    You should take a note of your comments and immediate accusations ‘Jason C.’ You obviously have not done YOUR homework, at last glance of information on why Ron Paul only got 9.99% of the vote is partly due to the fact that Iowa is mainly a evangelical state, therego Huckabee was expected to do well given his religiously endorsed TV ad. Secondly, for Ron Paul coming out on top of Giuliani speaks loudly of his campaign(not fanatics), who are attempting to submit Ron Paul to even more exposure in the coming months. As compared to Giuliani, who spent 237,000$ in Iowa in the first 9 months(check FEC filings), with dismal showing in votes. Then your accusation that his campaign staff is doing very little to get the message out becomes mere slander that factual, they obviously didn’t need to go to such extremes to beat a supposed top teir candidate. Which sets their sites now on New Hampshire, where Ron Paul already has a better showing in Republican votes than any other candidate. Your insight and analysis is not needed here, but it is good to view the brainwashed comments of hateful individuals that don’t seem to understand that not everything is posted on the internet to your liking, some such information has to be retrieved via circulation(information concealed in the form of books).

    Before you go off on a whim and slam peoples ideas or principals, remind yourself to go though an extensive analysis of the facts(via various publications) and turnon your spell check. Be informed…..

  25. Joey Dauben Says:

    Well, the last record I had was that Seehusen was the Iowa coordinator. It could have changed, who knows (though, if you’ll remember, TPW had a post that actually identified - at least originally - Seehusen as the Iowa coordinator - I posted that, btw), but if he’s not the coordinator any longer, then great, the person who is ultimately responsible for this screw up—whether imagined or otherwise - should be fired.

    Or shouldn’t he?

    And Chuck, how was he libeled? All I asked was should he be fired?

    I see how it works. Sure, you guys can destroy George Phillies, Imperato, Milnes, etc., etc., etc., but when it comes to promoting say, Wayne Allyn Root or someone like that, the sacred cows of the party come out and get offended that you’re even theorizing about “should they fire him?”

    You know, if I put in $10,000 to a website expecting it to produce certain goals and expectations, and the “leaders” don’t follow through, I’d demand accountability.

    That’s all that was asked.

    Had this been Eric Dondero’s name in exchange of Joe Seehusen, there would not be this much resentment.

  26. Austin Cassidy Says:

    Jason, this is Steve Gordon’s site now. :)

  27. Chris Says:

    You guys do realize that the Paul campaign DID NOT spend $20 million dollars on Iowa, right? He visited the state, like 8 times and spent maybe $1 million.

    From everything I’ve seen, the campaign was aiming for 10-12%. Not bad considering one month ago they were polling

  28. Jacob Katzenberg Says:

    Uh…OK, Joey.
    Did I understand you right?

    Your pal Eric Dondero was on the LNC in the 1980s.

    So maybe we should blame what the LNC does now on him.

    Makes sense? I don’t think so.

    By the way the Iowa coordinator, Ivers, has been widely reported and is listed on the campaign website. So is the fact that Seehusen is now on national campaign staff. Would it be too much to ask that you check on that before publicly speculating if he is to “blame” rather than go by something you reported months ago?

  29. Joey Dauben Says:

    Yeah, I find it highly effective for the RP campaign in Iowa. I want to reiterate that. It doesn’t surprise me that the Iowa Pork Barrel/Subsidy State only produced 11,000 votes for RP.

    But the issue is, if you had this sort of blow-up on the day of the biggest presidential election year, who would be responsible? Those you hired right? That’s all there is to it.

    I didn’t realize the Libertarian Party’s 11th Commandment was stronger than the Republicans.

  30. Chris Says:

    Well, the last record I had was that Seehusen was the Iowa coordinator.

    Good God, you didn’t even check the Paul website to see who the coordinator was before you started blasting away?! Why should ANYONE take ANYTHING you say seriously? How have you earned anyones trust?

    And just exactly why should anyone be fired? Paul polled around 7% in Iowa (behind Guiliani, BTW) before the caucus and ended up with 10% and beat Guiliani. How is that a “screw-up”?

  31. Jason C Says:

    Don’t blame Pauls turnout soley on the religous base in Iowa. Please, don’t do that. Especially for the fact that there was a much different tune being sung last week from the Paul camp: 15-20% some even claiming 2nd place. And whatever you do, do not claim victory because you out polled Giuliani. He was down in Florida sipping cocktails during the caucus.

    Paul had a predictable and respective showing and leave it at that. However, I stand by the fact that Paul could have gotten more out of Iowa. There just wasn’t a very good job in getting the best from his support. The fact that he polled 10% isn’t the only issue, it was the lack of Paul representatives, movers and speakers that was absent as well. I’m saying, it’s not hard to see that his campaign leaves a lot for desire. Now how is any of this wrong or hateful.

  32. Jacob Katzenberg Says:

    .But the issue is, if you had this sort of blow-up on the day of the biggest presidential election year, who would be responsible? Those you hired right? That’s all there is to it.

    OK, how does “I find it highly effective for the RP campaign in Iowa. I want to reiterate that. It doesn’t surprise me that the Iowa Pork Barrel/Subsidy State only produced 11,000 votes for RP” square with “this sort of blow-up”?

    But the issue is, if you had this sort of blow-up on the day of the biggest presidential election year, who would be responsible? Those you hired right? That’s all there is to it.

    Once again, Iowa is far from the biggest day of the year. But you are right, those who are hired for the particular job may have some responsibility. Those who were hired for it months ago do not.

    Just as TPW has some responsibility for what is posted on their website, so it is perfectly natural that people would speculate whether you should stay or go when you don’t do something as basic as checking easily available sources as to whether someone was even there before you speculate whether they were involved in sabotage.

  33. Jacob Katzenberg Says:

    Paul had a predictable and respective showing and leave it at that.

    The establishment media seem to think it was a good, and better than expected, showing. Watch the CNN clip in another post. Sure, some Ron Paul supporters expected even better, but they are super-enthusiastic and it actually probably would have been better if not for this database screwup, which however had nothing to do with Seehusen because he was not even there.

    However, I stand by the fact that Paul could have gotten more out of Iowa. There just wasn’t a very good job in getting the best from his support. The fact that he polled 10% isn’t the only issue, it was the lack of Paul representatives, movers and speakers that was absent as well. I’m saying, it’s not hard to see that his campaign leaves a lot for desire.

    Yeah, the database mistake was huge. But hopefully they have learned a lesson and make sure nothing like this happens in NH or other states.

    The demographics in NH are better as well, and the campaign has put more resources there, so it is likely to have a significantly better result. We’ll see.

  34. matt Says:

    Joey’s record is dreadful, but when it comes to information, you can’t beat something with nothing. I am incredibly interested in this little matter of the database running off, and without Joey, it wouldn’t have been reported here.

    With Joey here, it was reported wrong, and someone who was 1000 miles away got blamed, but everyone eventually saw through it and we got some information about a potential sabotage issue. That type of information is important.

  35. Jacob Katzenberg Says:

    I agree.

  36. Brad Says:

    If this story is within shooting distance of the truth, shame on us. As Ron Paul supporters we should learn a great deal from what I have suspected all along. We have a great base of enthusiasim, we put our money where our mouth is, but perhaps we just showed ourselves where we are the weakest. That assumes this story is true. EACH STATE NEEDS A CAPTAIN>>>..He needs teams that have team leaders assigned with a specific goal in mind
    and one that has proved himself reliable and trustworthy.. We need a National General that understands the primaries.. (as I just was enlightened how Iowa does theirs, very diffrent.) In order to win we MUST have structure even though our movement is spontaneous. But we Must have structure in our earnest desire to take our nation back.
    I am a bussiness man , We have 35 employees. They MUST see the trees, I must see the forest.. . we have backups of backups on our data. Look if we really want to win, then we need great national leadership, the meetup groups need to organize as 52 units for 52 states,and our young soldiers in the field need to be under their direction. This is war, a revoltionary war.. so make no mistake.. either we fight in an organized way, or try to beat the British hoping a loose band of freedom fighters can pull it off. As for my part as well as a great many others, all we can do is support all of you with our money, and preach the gospel of Ron Paul in our own enviroment. The message of freedom and personal liberty is the greatest soldier we have in the field, we are simply the ammunittion he uses. Keep your powder dry.

  37. Gene Trosper Says:

    Regardless if this is true or not, any RP campaign worker in NH should take heed…and quickly.

  38. One Volunteer Says:

    There was a lot to be desired. Some places didn’t even have speakers had the caucus or prepared speakers, not due to ineptness of the campaign, but because a few things were sprung on supporters that expected various precincts together at once. (A high school with 3 precincts was expected to have one speaker for all precincts, but it ended up that the volunteers didn’t realize that that was only for the Democrats.) There’s a lot of other things to. If a lot of Ron Paul supporters are tin foil hat types who believed the election is rigged, then the people expected to come out of the woodwork just didn’t show. It’s interesting because the most liberal poll put him at about what he ended up getting. He showed that he can make a presence with actual voters. The Ron Paul campaign is more then getting Ron Paul elected, it’s about an intellectual revolution. Close to third in numbers isn’t bad.

  39. Jacob Katzenberg Says:

    Here is one analysis that looks at a larger picture, that goes beyond merely the database issue to more systematic issues with how the campaign is run.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/20969

  40. erinzdad Says:

    I’am greatly worried about RP’s “official” staff. Have you seen the third rate/annoying public ads they are cranking out? Is Ron Paul’s campaign being sabotaged by his own staff? It certainly appears so. Nobody in their right minds would really put out ads like that. (Unless they were working to undermine RP’s candidacy)

    RP will win on the issues! A total moron would know to include issues in the ads…....instead we get a kid saying slooooowly R-o-n———P-a-u-l twice. The ad pissed me off just for wasting my time (Nothing against the kid)

    Not even an idiot would air an ad like that But, they did. Clearly, there is mischief afoot.

  41. Jacob Katzenberg Says:

    http://disinter.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/ron-paul-could-win-wyoming/

  42. Jason Says:

    Or incompetent amateurs (at least too many of them). Personally, I know he doesn’t have a chance and to much stock has been put into his R[evol]utionaries and I think we are seeing the result.

    However, yes there is a however, I’m very interested to see what he does in NH. I really think he can grab 3rd and this may be his best state. We’ll see soon enough. South Carolina is going to be a battle. Very exciting month!

  43. Eric Dondero Says:

    Question:

    Just for my interest, and completely besides the point, but is the same Joe Seehausen who used to be at the LP National Office and was recruited from the New Alliance Party?

    I seem to remember he was from Iowa. But the spelling of his name seems different. I thought it was Seewausen with a ‘w’. I could be wrong though?

  44. Eric Dondero Says:

    This echoes Ron Paul’s 1988 Libertarian Party Presidential campaign. There were all sorts of screw-ups with data bases, ad deadlines not being met, and fundraising mailings and such, particularly towards the end.

    But Ron got better with his Congressional campaigns in the 1990s.

    Still, we had a few screw-ups back then too. So, I’m not surprised here. But all campaigns do this. So, it evens out in the end.

  45. Jacob Katzenberg Says:

    Not sure which poll this is
    ————————————————————————

    NEW HAMPSHIRE

    Republicans
    McCain 31 (+4 vs. 12/18)
    Romney 26 (-5)
    Paul 14 (+7)
    Huckabee 11 (nc)
    Giuliani 8 (-5)
    Thompson 5 (+2)

    This is not including independents :D

    Independent voters in New Hampshire make up 50% of voters.

    Ron Paul received 29% of the independent vote in Iowa on the 3rd while John McCain received 22% of the vote.

  46. Steve Says:

    I was a county chair for Ron Paul in Iowa, so I want to add a few comments.

    First off, 10% in Iowa isn’t the huge defeat that some of the crazed Ronulans on various blogs are thinking. Just because he gets 90% in some online poll doesn’t automatically equal vote fraud if he doesn’t get 90% in a real vote. We’re all disappointed we didn’t do better and everyone looks at themselves and thinks “what if. . .” But the fact is we hit the polls highest projections and showed we’re a force that won’t go away. The revolution lived to fight another day - in NH, SC, and Nevada where we should be stronger.

    Regarding the database thing, I don’t know what the story is with this. I got my final GOTV list at 12:07 pm. While its apparently true that our list had more raw names than Huckabee or Romney, a good 25-33% of those in my county I had previously verified were not supporting Paul. The ones who supposedly were (including some who had told me only days before that they were supporting him) suddenly just didn’t want to come out on caucus night.

    Obviously many have pointed out that Dr. Drew Ivers and not Joe Seehusen is the Iowa coordinator. Seehusen was moved up to national after the straw poll in August and Dr. Ivers took over Iowa at that time. Dr. Ivers is a long-time GOP activist in the state and has a track record of success managing grassroots insurgent campaigns including Pat Robertson’s 2nd in 1988 and Buchanan’s 3rd in 1996.

    The biggest asset we were missing was our best one - Dr. Paul himself. The national campaign decided early on to run a national strategy rather than the “Iowa strategy” of candidates like Huckabee or Chris Dodd. As a result, Dr. Paul was here less than probably any other candidate. Like it or not, Iowans have a sense of entitlement, they expect to see the candidate in person. Skip Iowa like Rudy or Wes Clark in 2004, Iowans figure, “he doesn’t come here for us, we won’t go out for him” and they punish you. Everyone from the top down tried to get him here more but basically national told us “just get what you can, we’re sending Paul around the country.”

    The worst thing that can happen right now is for the netroots supporters who have invested so much emotionally into this to start tearing themselves apart. Perhaps we libertarians and constituionalists in third party movements should have more perspective on this. Paul could drop out now and have run the most successfull campaign for liberty ever. As it stands, he is as well positioned in terms of money and volunteers to run a national campaign as anyone in the Republican race. I hope he can improve his totals in New Hampshire and South Carolina and get some momentum going.

  47. Carole Says:

    There should have been multiple backups of ALL important information.

    This sounds amateurish that something like this could happen.

    And someone shold also have never left the site for a moment if it happened at a campaign office.

    Poor security.

    Dirty tricks are spread throughout politics. One must always be on guard and double-triple protected.

    I am so sorry for everyone’s disappoinment.

  48. Jim Palmisano Says:

    Don’t know who is to blame but I took part in the “Watch the Vote” Thursday night and one of my on the ground reporters who claimed to also be a campaign volunteer told that they were supposed to get the “prequalified” “Get out the Vote” list at 7am and they didn’t get it until 4pm. He also said the list he received was a Cold list.

  49. Eric Dondero Says:

    CNN just released their poll out of NH. Ron Paul is not in the top 4. They only reported on the top 4.

    Huckabee was 4th below Giuliani, with 11%.

    So, that must mean that Paul had less than 10% in 5th, unless he’s behind Fred Thompson too.

  50. brainon4u Says:

    I received some similar disturbing information from Jim Condit Jr today. I was part of the Liberty Broadcast Network and gathered info from people attending the Precincts and calling me with a vote count from each. I then logged the votes into the specified data base.
    Here’s what Jim noted:

    “——The Iowa Campaign staff did not help the Vote Watch effort at all. They did not publish numbers on the internet, either themselves, or in cooperation with us or any other group. As far as I know, they did nothing in reality to seriously watch the vote, despite noises to the contrary.

    Also, there is strong suggestion of crippling sabotage by Drew Ivers (head paid RP staff person in Iowa), as the data base for the Ron Paul supporters in Iowa somehow became “unavailable” until 4 PM in the afternoon on Jan 3, Caucus day.

    That means that all day the 200+ RP volunteers couldn’t remind people to go to the Caucus. This could have cost Ron Paul 10,000 votes, as last minute reminders are critical. This is EXACTLY what saboteurs do—they delay, obstruct, pretend to be dumb, and then provide way too little, way too late. How could the data base be in just one place, instead of in multiple places if one data base corrupted or went down? Why was it available at 4 PM —but not at 8 AM?

    Jim Gragg of Kansas arrived up at the Iowa Office at about 11 AM on Caucus day. He offered to help. Drew Ivers told him they had everything covered—and to just go to the party that night Who has ever heard of this in a campaign fighting for its life against great odds? I provided Jim Gragg a school location which he went to. In the caucus he attended—a few miles from headquarters, Huckabee, Thompson, Romney, and McCain had speakers—but Ron Paul did not !! And people from outside the caucus were allowed to speak. Yeah, Drew Ivers had everything “handled”, just like Jesse Benton and Don Rasmussen of the RP paid staff had everything “handled” at the Iowa Straw Poll.

    Maybe some of the hot shots up there around Drew Ivers who have been obstructing the Vote Watch work for four months, and who refused to use the automated call program which Mr. Weber and Steven Vincent had offered them for months, only grudgingly approving it two weeks before the Caucus (again, too little, too late!)—maybe this “know-it-all, cower before the Iowa GOP thugs” crew around Drew Ivers can explain some of this to someone’s satisfaction. (Remember, this was the same crew that had ONE student body visit planned for Ron Paul when he landed in Iowa a few weeks before the Caucus. Thus wasting his time that day.—Again, they just can’t quite get anything critical right. Also, it is now coming out that TV advertising was lackluster and sporadic in Iowa. Someone needs to pull the FEC report eventually and see what was spent on Iowa TV and radio. ”

    he continues, “If the paid staff is not going to object to the ruthless censorship and suppression the Big TV and Radio stations are using against Ron Paul, then they at least need to do saturation advertising to make Ron Paul a household name. This should have been going on since July, but even the advertising in Nov and Dec was apparantly not done properly. You can saturate an Iowa City on local Talk Radio and Local TV news for one week for about $15,000 - $20,000 or so. There were 20 major Iowa cities, but maybe not even that many media centers. Iowa was critical in so many ways. I think we’ve been “had” again by the “Cato Institute” enemy within the Ron Paul paid staff. Away with all of them in an office housecleaning! ’

    I copied and pasted his email w/o his permission; it was sent to hundreds of volunteers so did not feel it was a secret.

  51. brainon4u Says:

    I received some similar disturbing information from Jim Condit Jr today. I was part of the Liberty Broadcast Network and gathered info from people attending the Precincts and calling me with a vote count from each. I then logged the votes into the specified data base.
    Here’s what Jim noted:

    “——The Iowa Campaign staff did not help the Vote Watch effort at all. They did not publish numbers on the internet, either themselves, or in cooperation with us or any other group. As far as I know, they did nothing in reality to seriously watch the vote, despite noises to the contrary.

    Also, there is strong suggestion of crippling sabotage by Drew Ivers (head paid RP staff person in Iowa), as the data base for the Ron Paul supporters in Iowa somehow became “unavailable” until 4 PM in the afternoon on Jan 3, Caucus day.

    That means that all day the 200+ RP volunteers couldn’t remind people to go to the Caucus. This could have cost Ron Paul 10,000 votes, as last minute reminders are critical. This is EXACTLY what saboteurs do—they delay, obstruct, pretend to be dumb, and then provide way too little, way too late. How could the data base be in just one place, instead of in multiple places if one data base corrupted or went down? Why was it available at 4 PM —but not at 8 AM?

    Jim Gragg of Kansas arrived up at the Iowa Office at about 11 AM on Caucus day. He offered to help. Drew Ivers told him they had everything covered—and to just go to the party that night Who has ever heard of this in a campaign fighting for its life against great odds? I provided Jim Gragg a school location which he went to. In the caucus he attended—a few miles from headquarters, Huckabee, Thompson, Romney, and McCain had speakers—but Ron Paul did not !! And people from outside the caucus were allowed to speak. Yeah, Drew Ivers had everything “handled”, just like Jesse Benton and Don Rasmussen of the RP paid staff had everything “handled” at the Iowa Straw Poll.

    Maybe some of the hot shots up there around Drew Ivers who have been obstructing the Vote Watch work for four months, and who refused to use the automated call program which Mr. Weber and Steven Vincent had offered them for months, only grudgingly approving it two weeks before the Caucus (again, too little, too late!)—maybe this “know-it-all, cower before the Iowa GOP thugs” crew around Drew Ivers can explain some of this to someone’s satisfaction. (Remember, this was the same crew that had ONE student body visit planned for Ron Paul when he landed in Iowa a few weeks before the Caucus. Thus wasting his time that day.—Again, they just can’t quite get anything critical right. Also, it is now coming out that TV advertising was lackluster and sporadic in Iowa. Someone needs to pull the FEC report eventually and see what was spent on Iowa TV and radio. ”

    he continues, “If the paid staff is not going to object to the ruthless censorship and suppression the Big TV and Radio stations are using against Ron Paul, then they at least need to do saturation advertising to make Ron Paul a household name. This should have been going on since July, but even the advertising in Nov and Dec was apparantly not done properly. You can saturate an Iowa City on local Talk Radio and Local TV news for one week for about $15,000 - $20,000 or so. There were 20 major Iowa cities, but maybe not even that many media centers. Iowa was critical in so many ways. I think we’ve been “had” again by the “Cato Institute” enemy within the Ron Paul paid staff. Away with all of them in an office housecleaning! ’

    I copied and pasted his email w/o his permission; it was sent to hundreds of volunteers so did not feel it was a secret.

  52. brainon4u Says:

    Whoops - Sorry posted twice - got an error message so submitted again.

  53. Schvenzlerman Says:

    Yo, Eric Dondero - Thanks, you garbage anti-Ron Paul Troll, for your 7 pm post in which you trotted out the “latest” CNN poll. Did you see Jacob Katzenberg’s 3 pm post of Rasmussen’s polling results that show Paul in 3rd place surging at 14%, having DOUBLED his points? Of course you did.

    He fired you.

    Yours very truly,
    Schvenzlerman!

  54. Jacob Katzenberg Says:

    Joey, are you planning on fixing the headline of this post?

  55. Eric Dondero Says:

    Schvenzelerman, that must be the new alias for Paul Frankel. Past aliases have included: Paulie Cannoli, & Disinter.

  56. disinter Says:

    Yes he should resign. This is just plain incompetence. Good job Joey!

  57. matt Says:

    Eric,
    You are dead wrong about people’s identities and I think it’s intentional. That is all.

  58. matt Says:

    Ron Paul didn’t prioritize Iowa, and that state’s voters weren’t prime targets for his message anyway (the extent to which they expect to be coddled and catered to is ridiculous), there appear to have been some irregularities that really need to be addressed and fixed.

    Missing precinct captains?

    Databases disappearing?

    Nonexistent GOTV?

    I want heads on platters, or at least heads quietly relocated so that their owners don’t do any more damage to the best liberty candidate ever.

  59. Sean Scallon Says:

    We can blame the amateurs running things with RP campaign until we’re blue in the face, but the fact is, amateurs is all he’s got to work with because no hot-shot GOP profession is going to work for this campaign. It’s not going to happen. Just getting Drew Ivers to work for RP in Iowa was a coup in my book because he had caucus organizing experience. Think what would have happend if he wasn’t around.

    Amateurs make mistakes, that’s a given. But making mistakes and learning from them is the way you gain experience and become better at what you do. No doubt the amateurs in the Goldwater and McGovern camapaigns made their fare share of mistakes but in time they became the successful professionals of the Reagan and Clinton camapaigns respectively. If anything comes of Ron Paul’s bid for president, its the training of young campaign operatives who will stay in politics and lead a more successful camapaign in the future. You’ve got to start somewhere.

    And it ain’t over yet…

  60. Rob Kelly Says:

    So, Joey still hasn’t changed the headline? Maybe the administrator should change it then?

  61. Ryan Lankford Says:

    “The map shows that Davis County, the county that Coralville is in, pulled 20% anyway. But it’s a campus county (U of Iowa). Would that number have been higher with better organization?”

    Uh, Davis County is a sparsely populated rural county in southeast Iowa; Coralville is a “sister city” of Iowa City, in a very populated, east central Johnson County.

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