Green Party Presidential Updates

According to various news sources, Green Party primaries contests are starting to line up in several states. Ballot Access News reports that Greens will be on primary ballots in Illinois.

Challenges to the petitions of all Green and all Democratic presidential candidates had been filed. However, all challenges to both sets of candidates were found baseless, and were dismissed, on December 6.

The four Greens running in the Illinois presidential primary are Cynthia McKinney, Jared Ball, Kent Mesplay, and Howie Hawkins.

McKinney is now actively campaigning in Illinois.

According to this source, there are additional candidates on the ballot in California:

In addition to McKinney (www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com), a former member of Congress from Georgia who has re-registered in the Green Party, and Nader (www.draftnader.org), the 1996 and 2000 Green Party nominee, others whose name will appear on the ballot include:

  • Jared Ball (www.jaredball.com), a college professor and freelance journalist from the District of Columbia;
  • Elaine Brown (www.elainebrown.org), a former Black Panther Party leader, noted author and community and prison justice activist from Georgia;
  • Jesse Johnson ([email protected]), a filmmaker and 2006 Senate candidate and 2004 gubernatorial candidate for the Mountain Party from West Virginia;
  • Kent Mesplay (www.mesplay.org), a biomedical engineer who sought the Green Party presidential nomination in 2004;
  • Kat Swift (www.votekat.info), the Texas State Party Co-chair, progressive activist and newspaper credit manager.

The following Green Party candidates will be on the February 5 ballot in Arkansas: Cynthia McKinney, Kat Swift, Jared A. Ball and Kent Mesplay.

A Green Party release indicates the following Wisconsin candidates:

In addition to McKinney, other Green candidates appearing on the Wisconsin Green Party’s presidential ballot will be: Jared Ball - college professor from the District of Columbia, Jesse Johnson - filmmaker and film company owner from West Virginia, Jerry Kann - child welfare non-profit administrative assistant from New York, Kent Mesplay - air quality inspector from California, Joe Schriner - journalist and author from Ohio, and Kat Swift - non-profit bookkeeper from Texas.

My casual observation indicates that at least these media sources are generally paying a bit more attention to the former congresswoman from Georgia than they are to Ralph Nader or the other Green Party presidential candidates.

30 Responses to “Green Party Presidential Updates”

  1. Fred C. Says:

    Robert Milnes - Who’s your stand-in candidate in these primaries?

  2. Robert Milnes Says:

    Fred C., I don’t understand your question. The Progressive Alliance Strategy is for the GP to endorse the LP ticket. & for the LP p. to be a left libertarian (like I believe Teddy Roosevelt was). The vp can be either left or right. (I have recommended Karen Kwiatkowski who I believe would score right.) ALL previous LP nominees have been determined to be right libertarians, including Ron Paul. Then Either one Green OR Libertarian per ballot for ALL ballots. First on ballot first served on the honor system. I’m not running for the GP nomination to avoid conflict of interest for the LP nomination. Now, David Cobb scored left libertarian on the Quiz as I did. I believe Kubby & Phillies would but Smith would not. However my belief should be insufficient for the LP delegates. I would like to see all LP & GP presidential candidates declare their score. That way the LP delegates can choose whether to listen to my recommendations for this strategy or not.

  3. Trent Hill Says:

    Milnes,

    They already HAVE chosen wether to listen to your recommendations for this strategy.

    You have been judged, and found wanting.

    As for Karen Kwiatkowski, she’s a nice lady—just wrote an article for my book. =)

  4. Richard Winger Says:

    Note, Wisconsin doesn’t give the smaller qualified parties their own presidential primary. The Wisconsin event is a Green caucus.

  5. Robert Milnes Says:

    Trent Hill, unlike your pursuit of the dinosaur fossil & Ron Paul republican losers strategy, this strategy has a significant chance of victory. There has been a lot of thought & effort put into this & not just by me. It is an untried strategy requiring the cooperation of heretofore bitter political adversaries-the LP & GP. So, naturally, we can expect scepticism, pessimism & reluctance. But, everybody get on board. Try it; it just might work.

  6. Fred C. Says:

    Milnes - I don’t know if you’re familiar with the GP’s bylaws (and I admit, I’m only topically familiar), but they pretty much have to follow the decision of the delegates at their convention. They’re not going to do this spontaneously after ignoring their own primaries and conventions. In 04 Nader had his running mate Peter Camejo run in the primaries as a “stand in” or “place holder” with the explicit acknowledgement that he was there to back Nader’s indy run, and get the GP endorsement. Without a set up like this, the GP delegates are going to vote for the candidate they’re committed to (not you, if without any delegates) until they’re set free if no winner is determined in the early rounds. What exactly then is your strategy to get the GP to endorse you?

    Green Party folks - I’m pretty much going on memory from what I read in 04 related to Nader’s run and Cobb’s nomination, please correct me if I’m wrong or out of date.

    BTW, I think it’s a pretty neat idea to see all candidates’ quiz scores, and if not available to try to infer them based on platform or past votes if applicable.

  7. Andy Says:

    “As for Karen Kwiatkowski, she’s a nice lady—just wrote an article for my book. =)”

    Trent, what’s this about your writing a book?

  8. Robert Milnes Says:

    Fred C., your criticism is well taken. I am not an expert on GP or LP bylaws & convention rules. I was relying on Tom Knapp for that. I forget where I saw the conclusion that all previous LP nominees were right libertarians but as you say it was based on their campaign platform, past votes etc. It might have been the same place I saw Cobb talking about his score.

  9. Robert Milnes Says:

    Fred C., I hate to admit it, but I have no definite strategy to get the green nomination. I assumed that since the lp conv. is before the green conv., some way to get it could be found. But as you point out with their primary system-as opposed to the few lp non-binding primaries-the nomination would be decided by their delegates.

  10. Robert Milnes Says:

    Fred C., where there is a will, there is a way.

  11. Fred C. Says:

    Then I suggest your will from here on out be to do a lot of studying and make a lot of phone calls.

    If memory serves, Cobb managed to get a lot of his delegates into the GP convention by simply having supporters volunteer as national delegates, then when the comitted rounds were over they voted for their clandestine preference. I think this backdoor might still be in place.

  12. [email protected] Says:

    Fred,

    You write: “I forget where I saw the conclusion that all previous LP nominees were right libertarians but as you say it was based on their campaign platform, past votes etc.”

    That all depends on how you define “right” and “left.” Some “right-wing” LP members blew their stacks when Ed Clark described himself on national television as “a low-tax liberal” and concentrated his campaign commercial on the threat of nuclear war . At least that’s how I remember the commercial—I was 13 when I saw it; the main image I retain from it is footage of a Minuteman coming out of its silo. To my everlasting shame I cast my vote in my junior high mock poll for Ronald Reagan. Fortunately, I have managed to eschew voting for Republican presidential candidates when it actually counted. They don’t make it hard to stick to that decision.

  13. Robert Milnes Says:

    Tom, I’m the one with the temporary short term memory problem. I claim blame for that quote. But the lines & dots are clear on the Quiz.

  14. Robert Milnes Says:

    Fred C., wait a minute. Who’s side are you on anyway? Mine?

  15. Fred C. Says:

    Nope, but I’m feeling a bit Catholicker than usual today so I’m being nice to everyone. My candidate isn’t seeking either the LP or GP nominations at the moment, so I have no scruples about offering constructive criticism to any candidate from either.

  16. Eric Prindle Says:

    Correction: Camejo did not announce any intention to run in the 2004 California primary as a “stand-in” for Nader. He only announced his support for Nader’s independent candidacy, and his campaign for the vice presidency on Nader’s ticket, after the primary. When Camejo accepted placement on the primary ballot, he stated that he was running to build a slate of uncommitted delegates who would be able to decide how to vote at the convention.

    This time, I am happy to see that Howie Hawkins is publicly representing himself as a stand-in candidate for Nader. That should make things much clearer for those voting in the primary and those later tasked with deciding how any “Hawkins delegates” will be expected to vote at the convention.

  17. Robert Milnes Says:

    Fred C., Who might your candidate/ticket be?

  18. Robert Milnes Says:

    There seems to be a lot of Ron Paul on your myspace.

  19. Fred C. Says:

    You guessed it, it’s the only reason I rip on you whenever you poo-poo RP.

  20. Robert Milnes Says:

    Fred C., poo poo RP? You mean dump on him?

  21. Babblemur Says:

    The idea of a Libertarian - Green Party ticket is interesting from an academic stand point but in practical terms it is virtually impossible, particularly at this late stage in the game. Well - not impossible, but highly unlikely.

    Besides the MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the two ideologies that sit along side a number of common elements, there are so many complications such as ballot access laws, bylaws, primaries and caucuses, electoral college issues, internal factions, etc., that I would place the odds of something like this happening in 2008 as just a crack over NIL. The only possibility would be if the Green Party nominee for President selected the Libertarian nominee as a Vice Presidential candidate, and vice versa, but even then it would create a legal nightmare in states that both parties have ballot access in. There is no way that a Libertarian “stand in” candidate would get nominated President by the Green Party, and I imagine that there is no way that a Green Party “stand in” candidate would get nominated by the Libertarians.

    But even this is only hypothetical. I mean honestly - how many Libertarians would vote for Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader or Jared Ball for President if the Vice President on the ticket was a leading Libertarian? Anyone? Anyone? No? Maybe?

  22. Babblemur Says:

    Richard Wagner is correct - the Wisconsin Green Party will conduct its own Presidential Preference and Delegate Selection Process outside of the State-run primary. We will be mailing ballots to all members in good standing that will include all declared Green Party candidates for President based on the GPUS’s list of qualified candidates. If Ralph Nader declares his intent to run we will include him on the ballot as well. Our delegates to the national convention in July will be selected based on the proportion of votes each candidate receives. Nader could very well have delegates from Wisconsin even if he doesn’t declare if there are enough write in votes for him.

    Fortunately, the Wisconsin Green Party does have ballot access based on being a qualified “minor” party and our nomination for President WILL be on the November ballot for President in Wisconsin.

  23. Tom the Trotskyist Says:

    I support Robert Milnes’s Progressive Alliance strategy. It is the best way to help the cause of Trotskyism, if this is successful it will open many doors. Ralph Nader is a plant by the neo-conservative natinalist/globalist agenda. Even Mike Huckabee is more respectable than Ralph Nader. The best candidates are Dennis Kucinich, Barack Obama, Steve Kubby, Joe Biden and Ron Paul. They should run the country by committee.

  24. Robert Milnes Says:

    Babblemur, it is complicated, I know! So I’ve tried to simplify it as much as possible. First, BOTH parties profess to want to have some form of anarchism as the ideal state for human society. Let’s keep that in mind. If the LP nominates a left libertarian or leftist for p., that should be sufficient for greens to find endorsing that ticket acceptable. If doing so damages their ballot access, that also should be acceptable. It should result in nearly 100% ballot access for the LP ticket.

  25. Ed Ng Says:

    Babblemur,

    Count me as one.

    I’d vote for McKinney over, let’s say, Giuliani, Root, Corsi and Clinton.

    If Root gets the nomination there might just be some Libertarians for
    McKinney. I’d bet on it.

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  27. Green in Brooklyn Says:

    FYI - Jerry Kahn is also running as a stand-in for Nader, although I doubt he’ll end up with many delegates at the convention, especially now that Howie is running (and better known in NY, let alone nationally).

    As for Milnes’ progressive aliance theory, I have to agree with Bebblemur, I doubt that more than handful of delegates to the Green Party convention would even consider voting for a non-green (aside from Nader) on even the 3rd or 4th ballot, especially with McKinney running. I think it’s McKinney’s nomination for the taking at this point, and my guess is that if McKinney’s campaign takes on any traction, then Nader will decide not to run, even if Hillary does with the Dem nomination, as I doubt at his age that he wants to get beat up by the press for another run when there is another high profile candidate waiting in the wings to carry the torch. I would hope to see Nader campaign for McKinney, tho, and maybe even Kucinich.

    I do think that something of a libertarian-green alliance could happen in the fall, similar to that in 2004, where McKinney and Paul join forces to try to gain more press attention and traction.

  28. Robert Milnes Says:

    Green in Brooklyn, if you are referring to the comraderie of Cobb & Bad’n getting arrested etc,, that scenario was lost when the greens & libs had 2 separate nominees. That split the vote & it is downhill from there.

  29. Babblemur Says:

    Best scenario for the Greens: a McKinney-Nader ticket.

  30. Rebekah Kennedy Says:

    Greens will vote to run a Green ticket, period. The only person who could possibly convince us to do otherwise is Ralph Nader, and I think that would be a mistake for the Green Party. It’s not about grabbing some headlines in one election cycle. It’s about building a political party that will change public policy in America in favor of Green Values.

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