Sad but True…

From Christopher H. Hansen, the Nevada IAP State Chairman…

Please take the following test:

Who slaughtered the Buffalo to starve to death Native American women and children so we could steal land from those people?

Who broke EVERY treaty we had with the Indians?

Who lied about the Kennedy assassination saying it was a single man when it was LBJ and his buddies like Howard Hunt that planned it?

Who wrote up and 8 point plan to force Japan to attack us?

Who allowed our service men to get slaughtered to get us into a war Americans did not want to enter when they knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked?

Who lied to get us into WWI?

Who lied to get us into Vietnam?

Who lied to get us into the Spanish American War?

Who lied to get us into the Mexican American War?

Who lied to get us in to Iraq I?

Who lied to get us into Iraq II?

Who lies and tells Americans that the Income tax is required?

Who lies and tells Americans they have to have a Social Security Number?

Who said: “I am not a crook” when he was a crook?

Who gives Israel billions in aid when such aid is not allowed under our Constitution?

Who starved millions of Muslims to death with our Pro-Israel world policies?

Who lied about 9/11 and what REALLY happened and how planned it?

Who lies to us and tells us that Airport Security will protect us instead of stealing our liberties under the false promise of protection?

The correct answer to all these questions is America’s leaders.

Is it not time for a change?

33 Responses to “Sad but True…”

  1. Austin Cassidy Says:

    Hmmmmm. Some of that stuff is pretty out there.

  2. kabuki_dance Says:

    “Who lied about the Kennedy assassination saying it was a single man when it was LBJ and his buddies like Howard Hunt that planned it?”

    Ummm…aliens?

  3. Anthony Distler Says:

    You had me with the Indians, and then you lost me with LBJ killing JFK. Suprises me that this comes from the IAP. This sounds like a lot of extreme leftist talk to me.

  4. Andy Says:

    Chris Hansen hit the nail on the head with this one. Great post!

  5. Sean Scallon Says:

    And if you want to do something about Mr. Hansen, you’ll encourage your IAP members to help Ron Paul win the Nevada caucuses on Jan. 19 either by volunteering or through a one-year change in registration to vote for RP in the Republican caucuses.

    You have the opportunity to bring about change in this country. Sieze it Mr. Hansen.

  6. Trent Hill Says:

    Hanson says Ron Paul is still a Republican, and that he isnt a true conservative—he’s a libertarian! (GASP!)
    Which is the same thing Jerome Corsi says.

    Leading me to say: He’s both.

    He’s far better than Jerome Corsi on the issues, and LIGHTYEARS ahead of Chris Hanson. Crap like this puts me one step away from re-registering.
    Oh and Sean, don’t bother—Hanson won’t do anything for Paul because he’s got an “R” beside his name. That makes him evil.

  7. Sean Scallon Says:

    Well I’ve tried to convince Chris and you’re right he’s pretty stubborn about not supporting Paul during the primary process. But I hear other IAP members are more open minded and willing to take the chance to make a real impact in a presidential campaign for once.

  8. Timothy West Says:

    To determine, then, whether or not something is moral on a governmental level, we need only ask, “Is it physically harming the person or property of another?” If the answer is no, it’s moral. If the answer is yes, it’s immoral.
    On the personal level, however, we must ask of ourselves an even more intimate question: “Will this action harm my own person or property?” Answering this questionand then attempting to act accordinglywill keep us so busy we won’t have time to worry about what other people (especially strangers) are doing with and about their personal morality.

    As Hank Williams sang, “If you mind your own business, you won’t be minding mine,” or as Fats Waller wrote, “You run your mouth; I’ll run my business.”
    Although at times we may seem to be physically harming ourselves, we know, in fact, we are simply sacrificing momentary happiness for future gain. People jogging, for example, usually appear to be in pain. A compassionate person, not familiar with the jogger’s greater goal, might stop and offer the jogger a rideperhaps to the hospital. A person seeing a jogger might report to friends, “I saw this poor person running down the road wearing only shorts. There must have been some terrible accident.”
    Some caring souls, with the sincere goal of putting an end to pain, might suggest that jogging be outlawed. This group might show pictures of George Bush and Bill Clinton looking extremely unhappy jogging and compare them to pictures of a contented Eisenhower in a golf cart or a happy Reagan on a horse. As seemingly conclusive proof, the Anti-Jogging League could point out that the man who started it all, Jim Fixx, author of The Complete Book of Running, died at fifty-two while running. Jogging, obviously, is immoral.

    Joggers, however, know that jogging, for them, is perfectly moral. They believe they are trading present pain for future gain. While they may never convince the non-joggers of jogging’s benefits (although, God knows, they try, they try), they’re glad to live in a free country where their idiosyncrasy is tolerated. Although their scantily clad bodies and expensively shod feet are an annoyance to some, joggers take their freedom and allow others the freedom to sit in doughnut shops and consume their daily dozen.

    The problem of postponing immediate pleasure to attain eventual satisfaction becomes even more pronounced when we enter the world of religion. People may routinely and systematically deny themselves earthly delights in order to gain eternal paradise. If this is the belief of certain people, should the government step in and insist they enjoy themselves more often? Conversely, if the believers become popular enough or powerful enough, should they be able to, by law, prohibit everyone from doing whatever the believers consider too (that is, sinfully) pleasurable? In order to preserve the rights of both the heathen and the holy, the answer to both questions must be “No.”

    I’m not asking that any new system of government be adopted; I’m merely suggesting that we try the system we already have.

    with eternal thanks to Peter Mc Willliams, a moral man.

    TW

  9. matt Says:

    If Hanson wants to turn down a ride on the hottest coattails in the business, he’s free to do so.

  10. Cody Quirk Says:

    Actually Chris likes Ron very much.

    But making IAP members reregister GOP?! Give me a break!

  11. A More Perfect Union Says:

    This coming from the man who single-handedly ruined the Constitution Party. Notice how among the atrocities he fails to mention the children whose murders he approves of.

    Thanks Chris. I never left the GOP in registration but left them nominally around the time Giuliani became their frontrunner. You caused me to rejoin them, as I’d rather be with a powerful but worse party than a weak but better party that abandons its principles.

  12. Andy Says:

    “Trent Hill Says:

    August 6th, 2007 at 9:36 am
    Hanson says Ron Paul is still a Republican, and that he isnt a true conservative—he’s a libertarian! (GASP!)
    Which is the same thing Jerome Corsi says.

    Leading me to say: He’s both.”

    You know, this is kind of funny because in Libertarian circles some people accuse Ron Paul of being too “conservative” and for being a Republican.

    A lot of these Libertarians are probably not aware of this, but I’ve actually heard some conservatives (and I’m talking about paleo-conservative Constitution Party types and others who are considered to be “far right”) critisize Ron Paul for being too “liberal”.

    This reminds me of the quote, “You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.”

    “Leading me to say: He’s both.”

    I think that Ron Paul is clearly the best choice for supporters of both the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party, and for anyone else for that matter.

    “He’s far better than Jerome Corsi on the issues,”

    I’ve been wondering how in-line with the Constitution Party Jerome Corsi really is. I’m not a Constitution Party member but I do agree with them on a lot of issues, including stopping the North American Union, and I know that Jerome Corsi has done a lot of good work exposing the North American Union. However, somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Jerome Corsi a neo-con warmonger not that long ago? If so, has Corsi changed his position on the war? Also, just how in-line with the Constitution Party platform is Jerome Corsi?

    “and LIGHTYEARS ahead of Chris Hanson. Crap like this puts me one step away from re-registering.”

    I don’t know much about Chris Hanson beyond what I’ve read about him on this blog. From what I’ve read about him, I like everything that I’ve read except for the time wrote a hit piece against the Libertarian Party which I believe contained some mischaracterizations and half-truths. Beyond that, I probably agree with him on a lot of issues and he sounds like a hardcore activist so I commend him for that.

    “Oh and Sean, don’t bother—Hanson won’t do anything for Paul because he’s got an ‘R’ beside his name. That makes him evil.”

    This is new information to me and I can’t say that I agree with him about this at all. Ron Paul is clearly the best chance that those of us who support the Libertarian Party or Constitution Party have got right now, and I think that any Libertarian Party member or Constitution Party member that does not support Ron Paul is being foolish.

  13. Andy Says:

    “Trent Hill Says:

    August 6th, 2007 at 9:36 am”

    By the way, Trent, whatever happened with your summer program at the Mises Institute? Are you there right now or is it over or what? Perhaps you should write up a report about it and post it here.

  14. Sean Scallon Says:

    Why not Cody? It’s only for one year and they have a chance to make history. Would you pass that opportunity by just so you can stay smug in your non-major party ghetto? I wouldn’t.

    CP and LP members in Minnesota have no problems working for Ron Paul nor should anyone else.

  15. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    Constitution Party = Anti-American

  16. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    The difference between conservatism and libertarianism is that conservatism is based on faith, and libertarianism is based on reason. They are, in fact, polar opposite ideologies. Just because they share some of the same views, some of the time, and just because they share some of the same ideological foes, that doesn’t mean they’re compatible ideologies. Objectivists and Marxists are both Atheists, but it doesn’t make them ideological soul mates. Liberalism and Communism sharead a common foe in Fascism, but as soon as fascism was vanquished, they turned on each other.

    That said… Ron Paul is a conservative LIBERTARIAN (i.e. a libertarian with some conservative views or conservative applications of libertarian philosophy), but NOT a conservative in the CP mold. Just watch the Google interview if you need to be convinced.

  17. A More Perfect Union Says:

    “The difference between conservatism and libertarianism is that conservatism is based on faith, and libertarianism is based on reason.”

    False. Libertarianism is based on depravity. If libertarians were sincere in their claim of support for freedom as long as long as it does not harm others, but this isn’t true at all. Most of them support murdering the preborn and even child abandonment.

    However, I don’t consider myself a conservative. Most definitions of the word revolve around preserving the status quo, whereas I favor radical change.

    I’m voting for Dr. Paul, but I believe he is mistaken about political philosophies. Yesterday on FOX News he stated that libertarianism means adherence to the Constitution, which isn’t true at all. I also find it strange that he speaks favorably of democracy, which the founders abhorred.

  18. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    Most libertarians are not in favor of “murdering the pre-born” and certainly not child abandonment, or if they are, they’re not libertarians.

    You are just a commie thug who wants to force his views on others. You should call yourself a conservative, because that’s what conservatives are.

  19. A More Perfect Union Says:

    “You are just a commie thug who wants to force his views on others.”

    Nowhere did I do that, and yes most of them do. Even the LP platform is against government intervention to protect preborn children, and unless they support allowing private citizens to do so, then they are indeed pro-murder.

  20. Andy Says:

    “Nowhere did I do that, and yes most of them do. Even the LP platform is against government intervention to protect preborn children, and unless they support allowing private citizens to do so, then they are indeed pro-murder.”

    There is a lot of division in the Libertarian Party over abortion and there a lot more anti-abortion Libertarians than some realize.

    I happen to know some anarchist-Libertarians who are vehemently anti-abortion. They say that without government protecting abortion doctors that it would be “open season” (as in hunting season) on abortion doctors.

  21. Trent Hill Says:

    Ron Paul is not,specifically, a CP-type. But he represents the only chance to eliminate the IRS, destroy the FED, stop illegal immigration, and SIGNIFICANTLY limit government.
    The rest, including “social conservatives” like Brownback and Huckabee represent status quo neo-connism.

  22. Yosemite1967 Says:

    A More Perfect Union said: “...[Ron Paul] speaks favorably of democracy, which the founders abhorred.”

    Very true, but Ron has clarified this, on occasions at which people who were in the know about American history were the majority, by stating that he is using that term “rather loosely”.

    He probably avoids playing the “Not a democracy, Stupid!” card, because so much of the sheep populace which is ignorant about its own nation’s history would look at him with a blank stare.

    He instead seems to focus on the basic, underlying, golden rules of the founders’ teachings, rather than expecting the majority of the American people to go read the “Federalist Papers” for the first time in their lives. Rudy Jiuliani is the only American (if you can call him that) that Ron challenges to read something. :^)

  23. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    So Andy now supports the vigilante assassination of doctors?

    At a certain point, a fetus becomes a child. I don’t know when that point is, but it sure as hell isn’t conception. Ron Paul witnessed a pre-Roe abortion in which a baby was actually delivered and put in a bucket and left to die. I can see how witnessing such an event would distort one’s rationality. Roe v Wade protects the right to abortion only in the first trimester only under the 9th amendment. Beyond that, abortion is a matter for states. You “Constitutionalists” are big-government commies who want fifty Christian caliphates and a strong central government to overrule any particularly disagreeable laws, i.e. legalized abortion, among the fifty caliphates. You are the moral equivalent of the Taliban and you hate America just as much as they do. Too bad. You suck.

  24. Andy Says:

    Check out this video that I found on YouTube. This was from Ron Paul’s campaign for Congress in 1996.

    The Ron Paul Story
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgF-s1voM_Y

  25. Andy Says:

    “G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    August 7th, 2007 at 2:37 am
    So Andy now supports the vigilante assassination of doctors?”

    You must have a reading comprehension problem. I NEVER said whether or not I support such a policy, and for that matter, I have NEVER stated any personal position on abortion beyond saying that it would be better to leave it to the states in the current reality in which we live.

    Here’s a repost of what I said.

    “I happen to know some anarchist-Libertarians who are vehemently anti-abortion. They say that without government protecting abortion doctors that it would be “open season” (as in hunting season) on abortion doctors.”

    If you’ll notice I said “I happen to know some” and “They” which indicates that I’m talking about other people and did not state a position myself.

  26. Austin Cassidy Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cCfZrkCFI

  27. A More Perfect Union Says:

    Andy, don’t bother with G.E. As you can see, he’d rather jump to conclusions that reason, as displayed by calling someone as anti-state as myself a “communist.”

    “At a certain point, a fetus becomes a child. I don’t know when that point is, but it sure as hell isn’t conception. Ron Paul witnessed a pre-Roe abortion in which a baby was actually delivered and put in a bucket and left to die. I can see how witnessing such an event would distort one’s rationality.”

    More information you just pulled out of your tail? No, it is a medical reality that humans begin at conception. What happened to you to “distort your rationality?” You display your ignorance when you say that children don’t begin at conception, but you don’t have any idea when they do.

    “Very true, but Ron has clarified this, on occasions at which people who were in the know about American history were the majority, by stating that he is using that term “rather loosely”.”

    I hadn’t heard him say that. He shouldn’t be using the term at all. If Americans understood the difference, they might have a more accurate view of the role of government.

    “He probably avoids playing the “Not a democracy, Stupid!” card, because so much of the sheep populace which is ignorant about its own nation’s history would look at him with a blank stare.”

    True, when most hear people speaking against democracy, “communism” immediately comes to mind. : )

    “There is a lot of division in the Libertarian Party over abortion and there a lot more anti-abortion Libertarians than some realize.”

    I know there is division, but some of the most disgusting rhetoric I’ve heard has been from libertarians. A host on the mainstream “Free Talk Live” has defended child abandonment. Short-time libertarian presidential contender Doug Stanhope also has a bit in his act joking about how he and his wife murdered their preborn child, essentially admitting he recognizes it is murder.

    “I happen to know some anarchist-Libertarians who are vehemently anti-abortion. They say that without government protecting abortion doctors that it would be “open season” (as in hunting season) on abortion doctors.”

    Well, my main problem is not that the government fails to uphold the fifth amendment guarantee that none shall be deprived of life without due process, it’s that in addition to that it punishes those who do. To me one of the most hypocritical actions to occur in the US is the state murder of Paul Hill in FL. I feel that at all times, one must occur, state enforcement or private enforcement.

  28. Trent Hill Says:

    BTW: The Mises University organization was quite fun. Too many Anarchists for my taste, but still quite fun. In my personal opinion, the professors held Rothbard in too high a regard, and Mises/Menger/Bohm-Bawerk not high enough.
    But,essentially, a great experience.

  29. Andy Says:

    “I know there is division, but some of the most disgusting rhetoric I’ve heard has been from libertarians.”

    Unfortunately it is true that some Libertarians have made comments like this, but keep in mind that they don’t speak for the entire Libertarian Party.

    “A host on the mainstream ‘Free Talk Live’ has defended child abandonment.”

    This guy doesn’t speak for every Libertarian either.

    “Short-time libertarian presidential contender Doug Stanhope also has a bit in his act joking about how he and his wife murdered their preborn child, essentially admitting he recognizes it is murder.”

    I like Doug Stanhope and I was disappointed when he dropped out of the Presidential race. However, I’ve seen the bit you are talking about on YouTube and I would agree that the joke was in poor taste. I don’t know if Stanhope’s wife/girlfriend really got an abortion, but whether she did or didn’t, abortion is no laughing matter.

  30. Andy Says:

    “Trent Hill Says:

    August 7th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
    BTW: The Mises University organization was quite fun. Too many Anarchists for my taste, but still quite fun. In my personal opinion, the professors held Rothbard in too high a regard, and Mises/Menger/Bohm-Bawerk not high enough.
    But,essentially, a great experience.”

    Which professors did you have?

    When I was there I attended a Mark Thorton speech. I wasn’t there for a seminar or as a student or anything like that, I was in Auburn for something else, so I was just at the Mises Institute as a visitor.

    After attending the Mises Institute, do you still support the concept of protectionist tarriffs? I know that the Mises Institute is pretty anti-protectionism.

  31. Cody Quirk Says:

    Interesting that this Chris Hansen got the IAP from 15,000 reg. voters to 40,000 in 4 years.

    If the CP is ruined, why are there reoganized affiliates spring up left and right where the others left, why is the Party growing? The CP is only ruined for the wackos that tried to ruin it in the first place.

  32. Common Says:

    I understand the point which Mr. Hansen is trying to make, but how many of the leaders involved with the items he listed made a similar statement while running for office? “Is it not time for a change?” Unfortunately, he makes the mistake of taking some conspiracy theories and blends them with real issues while generating his list. That only goes against him when it comes to his message. How can he encourage people to bring about “change” if he is going to “lie” about events?

  33. Adam Says:

    ummm, I’m white/American Indian. I know that the govenment effed over my ancestors. Now, they are effing over everyone

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