TIME: Ron Paul’s ideas ‘brilliant…weird’

I’m surprised none of the ThirdPartyWatchers haven’t picked up on this stuff yet (then again, maybe it’s the reporter in me that can hunt down news left and right):

Joe Klein of TIME Magazine (the issue with Al Gore on its cover) says libertarian Congressman Ron Paul’s ideas are “brilliant…” and “weird.”

The column is posted here.

Then on Sunday, The Dallas Morning News’ only conservative editorialist (he’s the former editor at National Review) had a great column titled, “Ron Paul Can’t Say That, Can He?” It was in Sunday’s Points section (the editorials).

All in all, I’d say this is the most positive news coverage Ron Paul’s campaign has gotten. In TIME, there’s actually another Ron Paul reference (page 20 I think) with the Rudy-vs.-Ron debate quote.

And not to be outdone, Ron Paul’s media coordinator was on the infamous Alex Jones show the other night. Seriously, I understand that radio shows from all viewpoints are frothing at the Ron Paul candidacy, but this is just another example - in my opinion - of ammunition the opposition can - and will - use. That’s like Ron Paul appearing on the David Duke show or something.

55 Responses to “TIME: Ron Paul’s ideas ‘brilliant…weird’”

  1. Fred C. Says:

    If the opposition were to “lower itself” to acknowledging that Alex Jones even exists, and wants to give him the exposure of a mention during the national campaign, then yes, they could use this.

  2. KOKO Says:

    David Dukes got a show?

  3. Jay Matthews Says:

    Joey, thanks for the heads up on the Time article. About Alex Jones, what does this guy do that’s so horrible? He has a passion for the truth and cares about the country. Now some will respond that’s he’s a conspiracy theorist. (Like that’s a bad thing, the alternative would be all just keep quiet and believe any story that’s force-fed to the public.)

  4. globalist_elitist Says:

    “He further claims that Communists in the West today are funded by corporations.”

    Jones is an anticapitalist rube, and not a serious person. A serious presidential candidate would have nothing to do with him. Ron Paul needs to decide whether or not he is serious.

  5. Ken H Says:

    Re: Alex Jones.

    I tend to not buy into conspiracy theories but I am glad there is someone like Alex Jones beating the bushes just in case The Establishment is up to something not in the best interests of the United States.

  6. Jay Matthews Says:

    Ken, “just in case the establishment is up to something not in the best interest of USA???”

    Patriot Act
    Patriot Act renewal
    Military Commisions Act
    North American Union
    Trans-Texas Corridor Highway (and all the eminent domain that comes with it)
    The Amero
    FEMA

    You get the idea, others feel free to add.

  7. Jay Matthews Says:

    I got a little ahead of myself. Yes, I know FEMA wasn’t created under the current administration.

  8. Jay Matthews Says:

    For Ron Paul supporters, this was added to his site very recently. He’s on C-Span tonight:

    http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/05/ron_paul_speaks.html

  9. George Whitfield Says:

    Time Magazine’s Joe Klein said that Guliani “reduced Ron Paul to history” with his interrupting coments. I agree that the moment was historic but I venture to say that “reduce” is not the operative word. I suggest “produced” or “propelled”. If Ron Paul, like Mr. Klein wrote, is like everybody’s uncle bartender, Ron Paul as our next President would be much better than the two barroom characters that have most recently held that office.

  10. Jay Matthews Says:

    Throw in the Real ID act too.

  11. globalist_elitist Says:

    Hey America Haters: If everything is so bad, if the Jewish/Communist Illuminati is really so powerful, then why aren’t Alex Jones and his disciples like Andy rounded up and throw into Gitmo?

  12. Carl Says:

    KOKO: David Duke doesn’t have a show, but he did appear on Jesse Jackson’s show—way back when Jesse had one.

    Jesse was a much better talk show host than politician. Maybe Air America can convince him to go for radio…

  13. Devious David Says:

    The CSPAN speech was good. He covered all the bases. Very anti-State and pro-civil disobedience. He did a nice job of explaining how the welfare/warfare state is a self perpetuating dilemma.

  14. Austin Cassidy Says:

    I’ve just been getting a little burned out on all the Ron Paul stuff, that’s all.

  15. Devious David Says:

    Understandable. You non-patriot! :)

  16. Jay Matthews Says:

    Austin, I was thinking about that too. Not that I’m burned out, but it might be a good idea for Dr. Paul to lay a little low (or at least lower) between now and the next debate to avoid overexposure.

  17. Trent Hill Says:

    The facebook group,
    StudentsForPaul raised $1000 in 2 hours.

  18. Gloria Says:

    I don’t know anything about Alex Jones, but I downloaded a radio interview Ron Paul did with a show called “Brian and the Judge” (I think that was it). These two losers ridiculed all the callers who called them (and thought that we should get out of Iraq). What kind of radio hosts ridicule their viewers??? They were telling them they were dumb, so I guess they’re dumb for listening to their idiotic show.

    Anyway, a disabled Iraq veteran from Texas called and said that Ron Paul was right on the money and they said, “You have no right to speak for the military.” and acted like they did and then made fun of him for being anti-American once he’d hung up! I loved the Marine’s response: “I’m not getting into a debate about world politics with a sports guy.”

    I wish Ron Paul hadn’t appeared on their show, although judging from the calls they got, a lot of listeners agree with Ron Paul over them, so maybe it was good exposure.

    Alex Jones listeners are voters, too. I listened to a bit of one of his shows once, and even though he believes in the 9/11 conspiracies, he was a million times more articulate and informed than this Brian and Judge Napolitano.

  19. Jay Matthews Says:

    Gloria, what was the link for that interview? Thanks.

  20. Skull / Bones » Blog Archive » The Ron Paul — Alex Jones connection Says:

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  21. Jackcjackson Says:

    I havent heard much from him lately but Judge Napolitano used to be a pretty good libertarian voice on Fox News. He was the only person I could watch on that network post 9/11.

    I’m assuming Brian is Kilmeade the sports and Fox&Friends guy. I have talked to him via email ( about baseball several years ago). He seemed alright but he probably has the same sickness as 99% of the FNC people.

  22. Brandon H. Says:

    I remember Napolitano said in 2005 he thought Paul would be a good Justice for the Supreme Court. Napolitano is probably correct on domestic issues (I know he is anti-USA PATRIOT Act for example) but probably has the Fox News Foreign Policy.

  23. SovereignMN Says:

    “Not that I’m burned out, but it might be a good idea for Dr. Paul to lay a little low (or at least lower) between now and the next debate to avoid overexposure.”

    That’s not good advice. Dr. Paul can’t afford to lay low. He’s currently 0% in Iowa and 3% in New Hampshire. I think these polls are a little scewed because most of his supporters aren’t in the polling databases as “likely Republican Primary voters” but nontheless, he’s got to continue fanning the flames.

    Maybe what you meant to say is that Dr. Paul has to be very careful about the type of exposure he grants himself. His coalition is very broad, thus it’s very sensitive to breaking apart. He’s got a coalition of pro-lifers, anti-amnesty, anti-war, fiscal conservatives, and libertarians. That coalition of support covers people who are “right” of the GOP to centrists to moderate Dems. Very tenuous.

    What Paul needs to do is continue to try and tap the ‘Jesse Ventura’ voters . These are young people ages 18-30 who don’t typically vote and are traditionally thought to be ‘in the middle’ of the political spectrum. They hold libertarian or ‘conservative’ stances on taxes/spending and are also anti-war. Ventura got to them to mobilize because of his personality. Dr. Paul doesn’t have that but he might be able to mobilize them with his anti-war position since people are very passionate about that right now.

  24. Sean Scallon Says:

    Gee do you think Ron will be able to get time on Glenn Beck’s show or Sean Hannity’s? He’s going to go where he’s wanted.

    Hopefully the Paul candidacy will spark a rebellion against these damn talk show hosts who have been controlling conservative discourse the past 17 years. It’s time for a change and its time for new hosts who aren’t water-carriers for the GOP.

  25. Fred C. Says:

    I’m questioning whether Paul’s even being included in all these polls as a close-ended choice, I completed an online poll a couple weeks back that only included 4 or 5 of the others.

  26. timothy west Says:

    What Paul needs to do is continue to try and tap the ‘Jesse Ventura’ voters . These are young people ages 18-30 who don’t typically vote

    best advice evar. He has to reach the people that dont normally vote because they think the system is crooked ( they’re right ) and normally dont vote at all for anyone.

    And sooner or later, he is going to have to turn on his primary challengers as warmongering sycophants who gave up their elected obligations to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. I would rather him go down in flames in the primary speaking truth to power than just dry up and blow away.

    His only chance to make a difference is to go after the Neo Cons as dangerous and challenge whats left of the Reagan/Goldwater wing of the party to open rebellion at the convention. The only way he can keep in the game until then is by fanning the flames. He’s got to keep saying the RP was hijacked and that Reagan would have NEVER invaded Iraq.

  27. Andy Says:

    “And not to be outdone, Ron Paul’s media coordinator was on the infamous Alex Jones show the other night. Seriously, I understand that radio shows from all viewpoints are frothing at the Ron Paul candidacy, but this is just another example - in my opinion - of ammunition the opposition can - and will - use. That’s like Ron Paul appearing on the David Duke show or something.”

    What an asinine comment to equate Alex Jones to David Duke. Ron Paul has been appearing on The Alex Jones Show for over 12 years. I’ve listened to a lot of political talk radio and I’d say that Alex Jones is the best political talk radio host right now, and he has been for several years.

  28. Andy Says:

    “globalist_elitist Says:

    May 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 pm
    Hey America Haters: If everything is so bad, if the Jewish/Communist Illuminati is really so powerful, then why aren’t Alex Jones and his disciples like Andy rounded up and throw into Gitmo?”

    First of all, not all Jews are a part of the Illuminati or communist.

    Second of all, there are good freedom fighters who have been put in prison. In fact, one of them that comes to mind is Irwin Shiff, who is a Jew by the way. The evil people who run the government are building up a police state control grid and they eventually want to put all who resist them in prison or to murder them. They do as much as they can get away with at any particular time. They know that if they go too far too fast that it will alarm too many people which will create more resistance to them. So the frog in the pot of water that is slowly being heated up to an eventual boil is what is going on here.

  29. globalist_elitist Says:

    “First of all, not all Jews are a part of the Illuminati or communist.”

    Most classic line EVER!

    Irwin Schiff was a fraudster who got what he deserved.

    It seems like it would be awfully easy for the Illuminati to bump off, say, Alex Jones. I mean, the guy is very powerful and threatening to the Illuminait, isn’t he?

    When are you going to grow up?

  30. Tom Bryant Says:

    Andy writes:
    “Second of all, there are good freedom fighters who have been put in prison. In fact, one of them that comes to mind is Irwin Shiff, who is a Jew by the way.”

    Irwin Schiff wasn’t a freedom fight! Schiff was a con man who duped into breaking the law. Schiff pocketed millions of dollars from guillible people. I applaud the government for actually doing its job for once by locking this man up. The unfortunately thing is that the hundreds of people duped by Schiff won’t be getting their money back. The ironic thing is that people were paying Schiff to keep money from the IRS. Those who followed Schiff’s system had to pay the IRS, plus fines, and the money they had given to Schiff wound up in the IRS’s pocket after it hit Schiff with fines and penelties.

    GE:

    Remember that there is a grand conspiracy involving judges, Congressmen, CPAs, lawyers, bankers, stock brokers, university professors, historians, authors, scientists, doctors, government workers, military personnel, managers, and corporate executives. Pretty much anyone who has a decent career and financial stability is part of the conspiracy.

    I don’t know if you’ve met any tax-protester 9/11 truther conspiracy guys, but they tend to be poor with very little future prospects. They don’t take proper care of themselves: unkept hair, stained clothing, bad hygeine, no social skills. I’ve met about a dozen of them, so this is a generalization of course. (I’m not implying that this is true about Andy by any means. Andy has already proved that he does not fit my generalization of the movement, and I don’t want to make that mistake again.)

  31. Joey Dauben Says:

    I agree Tom Bryant. And Andy, the David Duke-Alex Jones quip was slight sarcasm, so lighten up.

    But Tom is right on. The 9/11 purveyors—notice that the big blogs are linking back to some of this stuff now—are the separatist-minded types…they refuse to vote because that’d put them in “the system,” the very system that Ron Paul is seeking to run. (or mostly abolish)

    When it comes to doing something, handing out DVDs and putting up signs isn’t enough. You’ve got to be willing to stand up and out and VOTE these guys in, or out of office.

    Austin, not to worry, unless there’s something specific to a Third Party, I will not post any more Ron Paul items.

  32. Liberty Action Says:

    “And Andy, the David Duke-Alex Jones quip was slight sarcasm, so lighten up.”

    No it wasn’t! It was libel! And I know Alex Jones to be very litigious. If you were big enough to notice, I would hope he would sue you but you aren’t so he probably won’t.

  33. globalist_elitist Says:

    Um, what the fuck was actionable on Alex Jones’ part against Joey? Mere reference of him in the same sentence as David Duke? You are an idiot. Alex Jones is a public figure, but even if he weren’t, nothing said here has even approached the level of actionability. Besides, I’m surprised Jones believes in the Illuminati-run courts. How hard does he have to look to find a “non-Zionist” lawyer?

  34. Jay Matthews Says:

    Sovereign, what I meant was the campaigning shouldn’t stop but if Austin is getting burned out perhaps others might be also. That’s what I originally meant, but after thinking about it maybe the potential for overexposure is still a ways off. It’s not like he’s the lead story on the news every night and it’s not like the media feeding us Rudy McRomney all the time has hurt their numbers.

    For anyone who by chance hasn’t heard yet, RP is an in-studio guest on Bill Maher Friday.

  35. Andy Says:

    “Irwin Schiff was a fraudster who got what he deserved.”

    No, the IRS is the fraudster and Irwin Shiff is an innocent man who is being held as a political prisoner.

    “It seems like it would be awfully easy for the Illuminati to bump off, say, Alex Jones. I mean, the guy is very powerful and threatening to the Illuminait, isn’t he?”

    Yes, they could bump him off and he has in fact recieved death threats, however, they KNOW that if they bump him off that he will become a martyer, and they do not want him to become a martyer. Their prefered tactic is to ignore dissenters or to ridicule them. If they really feel threatened by somebody another tatic that they will employee is to set them up on trumped up charges and put them in prison. This is what they did to Mark Koernke who was kind of like Alex Jones before Alex Jones came along. Mark Koernke was actually even more extreme than Alex Jones as Mark Koernke was into the Militia Movement which is something that scares the shit out of the government and the people who control the government. So they set Mark Koernke up on bogus, trumped up charges and he went to prison for like 7 years. He just got out of prison earlier this year and now he’s got a radio show on the We The People Radio Network.

    Check out We The People Radio Network.

    www.wtprn.com

    Here’s a list of programs on We The People Radio Network.

    www.wtprn.com/programs.html

    Listen to the archives at We The People Raio Network.

    www.wtprn.com/programs.html

    Anyway, they only “bump off” people when they REALLY feel threatened by them.

    “When are you going to grow up?”

    This from a guy who makes as many childish statements and believes in as many fairy tales as you do. LOL!

  36. Andy Says:

    “When it comes to doing something, handing out DVDs and putting up signs isn’t enough. You’ve got to be willing to stand up and out and VOTE these guys in, or out of office.”

    I do vote. Why do you assume that everyone who doesn’t believe the official government story about 9/11 is a non-voter? I know many 9/11 Truthers who vote.

  37. globalist_elitist Says:

    I want Andy to answer the question: Do you believe in aliens, UFO abductions, and/or Lizard Men?

    Please answer.

  38. Andy Says:

    “globalist_elitist Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 9:27 am
    I want Andy to answer the question: Do you believe in aliens, UFO abductions, and/or Lizard Men?

    Please answer.”

    I deal in facts that are backed up with evidence. So until I see any compelling, documented, and verifiable evidence that says that those things are for real, that is a topic that I do not get into, so I’d have to see it to believe it.

    It’s funny how the media and the education establishment has so many people so conditioned that whenever somebody brings up facts that go against the official government story about 9/11 - or just about anything else that the government says for that matter - or whenever people talk about the exsistence of a New World Order movement - even though that movement has been publically announced on TV by Presidents - a lot of people automatically associate it with talk of space aliens, UFOs, and Lizard Men and other stuff that can’t be proven and that sounds nuts.

    This is why I’m not overly wild about David Icke. A lot of the stuff that David Icke talks about is true and is documented, however, he mixes it with a bunch of talk about shape shifting Reptilians from another dimension and other weird sounding stuff like that for which there is little to no evidence for, and this causes many people to disregaurd everything else that he says (including all of the the stuff that’s true) and to lump everyone who refutes official government stories and who talks about the exsistence of a New World Order movement in with talk about aliens, UFOs, and Lizard Men, and stuff like that, even though most of the people who talk about such stuff do NOT believe in these unprovable tagents that David Icke goes off on. This makes me wonder if David Icke is a disinfo agent.

  39. globalist_elitist Says:

    Yes. He’s a disinfo agent. Perhaps part of the Illuminati himself? Perhaps a LIZARD MAN himself?

  40. SovereignMN Says:

    “Do you believe in aliens, UFO abductions, and/or Lizard Men?”

    Yes, I’ve met quite a few Unitarians.

  41. Andy Says:

    “globalist_elitist Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 10:10 am
    Yes. He’s a disinfo agent. Perhaps part of the Illuminati himself? Perhaps a LIZARD MAN himself?”

    I don’t know if David Icke is a disinfo agent or not. If he is, he’d likely be on the payroll of some government agency or perhaps the Monarchy itself, but of course I’m merely speculating here.

    It’s too bad that Icke goes off on these wild tangents because other then that I think that he’s got some good stuff to say.

  42. globalist_elitist Says:

    Wouldn’t you also agree that it’s too bad that David Duke goes off on “tangents,” because he also has some good things to say? Also, Hitler had some good ideas, too, don’t you think?

  43. Andy Says:

    “globalist_elitist Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
    Wouldn’t you also agree that it’s too bad that David Duke goes off on “tangents,” because he also has some good things to say? Also, Hitler had some good ideas, too, don’t you think?”

    Everyone has good things to say at least once in a while, even you, but some more so than others.

    I don’t like Bill Clinton but if it is raining outside, and Bill says “Hey, it’s raining outside.” then this doesn’t mean it is not true just because Bill Clinton said it and other stuff he says is bullshit.

  44. Jay Matthews Says:

    Andy remember, in the end regardless of what evidence is presented to people, they will believe what they want to believe. Life is more comfortable that way.

    I’m not terribly familiar with Jones’ movies but I have seen his footage of Bohemian Grove. Prior to his film many people I’m sure laughed at him and his premise. Then he exposes it as a real, shoots ritual footage, even interviews David Gergen about it, and we see Gergen get bent out of shape.

    I’m sure some people still think it’s a Jones fabrication.

  45. Andy Says:

    “Jay Matthews Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
    Andy remember, in the end regardless of what evidence is presented to people, they will believe what they want to believe. Life is more comfortable that way.”

    Jay, you just hit the nail on the head. Many people are simply too lazy to think for themselves and investigate things on their own, so it is a lot easier for them to believe what the government tells them. It is too scary for a lot of people to confront the fact that their government is lying to them, because then they will be put in a position of having to do something about it or they will have to admitt to themselves that they are cowards and do nothing about it.

    “...all Expierence hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed.” Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence

  46. Eric Dondero Says:

    To the individual who compared Ron Paul to Jesse Ventura, Pleeeease! Gimmee a break. Ventura is not a “Surrenderist” like Ron Paul. He’s an ex-Navy Seal, who understands the threat the United States faces from the rise of Islamo-Fascism.

    Paul wants us to just wave the white flag. He thinks that if we surrender to the Islamo-Fascists they’ll just go away and leave us alone.

    Jesse Rocks! Ron Paul is dropping like a brick.

  47. Eric Dondero Says:

    46 posts here, and not a single one of you is addressing the fundamental point of the article: The fact that Joe Klein of Time says Rudy Giuliani won the debate because of Ron Paul’s major flub.

    The headline of the story for goodness sakes is “How Rudy won the Debate.”

    Are you all here that out of touch with mainstream politics that you cannot even acknowledge the fact that Rudy trounced Ron Paul, after his stupid remark?

    Some of you more Geeky types may have thought Ron Paul won that round. That’s natural, cause you don’t understand is that perception is reality. Your personal image sucks, so you don’t get the fact that image is everything in politics, NOT ISSUES!

    Probably explains why the Libertarian Party continues to nominate Goobers like Michael Badnarik for President.

    Grow up fellow Libertarians. Good looks, quick wittiedness, well-spokeness, counts for a lot in politics.

    That’s why Rudy (and Romney) are winning, and Ron Paul continues to languish at 0 to 1%.

  48. Andy Says:

    “Eric Dondero Says:

    May 25th, 2007 at 12:44 pm
    To the individual who compared Ron Paul to Jesse Ventura, Pleeeease! Gimmee a break. Ventura is not a “Surrenderist” like Ron Paul. He’s an ex-Navy Seal, who understands the threat the United States faces from the rise of Islamo-Fascism.”

    You don’t know what in the fuck you are talking about. Jesse Ventura has come out AGAINST the war in Iraq and he’s also said that he believes that 9/11 was an inside job. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

  49. Andy Says:

    Jesse Ventura Question Official 9/11 Story
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/260906venturaquestions.htm

  50. Tom Bryant Says:

    The problem with the 9/11 Truthers is that they don’t have any facts or evidence that prove their thesis.

    They have selected bits and pieces that fit their thesis and ignore everything that does not fit their thesis. In order to do so, they have to grow the conspiracy to huge proportions that could not sustain its own weight.

    For example, they discount all the eye-witnesses and officials who state that they saw a plane hit the pentagon. Those people are believed by the Truthers to all be liars and/or paid off by the government. The few witnesses who say they saw a missile hit the pentagon are seen as heros telling the truth.

    All of the demolishion experts and structural engineers who say that the towers fell from the impact and fire are discounted by the Truthers because, oddly enough, they are all lairs and/or paid off by the government. The couple of experts or college professors who say that the towers could not possible collapse from impact/fire are heros telling the truth.

    The sheer amount of people that have been paid off by the government in order to make the Truthers’ story feasible is ridiculously large. A conspiracy that large would crumble and fall apart.

    Andy…I have another question for you. Do you believe that we won or lost the Revolutionary War? Are we still a British Colony?

  51. Andy Says:

    “Tom Bryant Says:

    May 25th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
    The problem with the 9/11 Truthers is that they don’t have any facts or evidence that prove their thesis.”

    20 Smoking Guns: The 9/11 Military/Psyops Attack
    http://www.propagandamatrix.com/911_redux.html

  52. Andy Says:

    Physics Professor Steven Jones Lecture on 9/11
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=964034652002408586&q=physics+professor+steven+jones&hl=en

  53. Andy Says:

    9/11 Mysteries: Demolitions
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=9%2F11+mysteries

  54. Jay Matthews Says:

    Hey Andy, those points are a good start. There’s at least seven dozen others, not that they need to be posted.

    I’ve posted this before but since we’re on the topic,.....It’s astounding that despite the chronic lies, deception, and scandal with this administration when it comes to 9/11 they are suddenly a bunch of boy scouts.

  55. Tom Bryant Says:

    Andy,

    Your first link does not prove your thesis that 9/11 was an inside job, in fact it contradicts it many times over. How many times does the article refer to the fact that it was Muslims who attacked the WTC? The government also gets many tips each day about imminent attacks, and the vast majority of them are bogus. It reminds me of the guy in high school who used to always say “now” when looking at a red light. He would say “now” about 20 times until the light turned green. Then he’d look really smug and say “See? I had it timed” I guess you’d actually believe that he did have the light timing down.

    As for the videos, that just shows how poor your researching skills are. A google video is part of your research? Seriously, you need to learn how to come up with credible sources.

    You take Steve Jone’s word as truth, but what about Bazant, Robertson, Verdure, Eager, and fellow BYU professor Firmage? Of course, all of the experts who disagree with you are part of the big conspiracy. BYU fired Jones because they are in on the conspiracy, and it had nothing to do with the fact that misrepresented his paper on the controlled demolishion as being peer reviewed when it was never submitted to any scientific journal.

    What makes you believe Jones over the rest of the scientific community? Is it his research method or his conclusion?

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