Could Constitution Party benefit from Giuliani nomination?

Some interesting quotes from James Dobson in this recent article:

Dobson wrote that Giuliani’s support for abortion rights and civil unions for homosexuals, as well as the former mayor’s two divorces, were a deal-breaker for him. “(In a) choice between him and Senators Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran—or if worse comes to worst, not vote in a presidential election for the first time in my adult life. My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else.”

So does anyone think the Constitution Party (lately divided with infighting) could benefit from the Republican nomination of Rudy Giuliani? If someone of the CP could convince James Dobson (full article below as well) that they’re not a lost cause then they might be able to make some noise… at least among the Christian Right - which of course is their bread and butter.

So tell me, CP’ers - is your party making any outreaches to Mr. Dobson to try to bring him and his right wing loonies into the CP should the GOP nominate Rudy?

WASHINGTON (CNN)—Religious conservative leader James Dobson will sit out the 2008 presidential election if former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is the Republican presidential nominee, he wrote Thursday in an online column.

In a piece published on the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily, Dobson wrote that Giuliani’s support for abortion rights and civil unions for homosexuals, as well as the former mayor’s two divorces, were a deal-breaker for him.

“I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008. It is an irrevocable decision,” he wrote.

“If given a Hobson’s—Dobson’s?—choice between him and Senators Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran—or if worse comes to worst, not vote in a presidential election for the first time in my adult life. My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else.”

Dobson, 71, is the founder and chairman of Colorado-based Focus on the Family, but said he was writing as “a private citizen and not on behalf of any organization or party.”

Dobson’s daily radio broadcast can be heard on more than 1,000 radio stations and is listened to by 3.4 million listeners each week, according to Nima Reza, a spokesman for Focus on the Family.

He endorsed President Bush in 2004, the first time he endorsed a presidential candidate.

Dobson attacked Giuliani for publicly saying he hates abortion but supports a woman’s right to have one. Giuliani had been criticized for being ambiguous on his abortion views, but firmly stated last week that he supports abortion rights.

“Is Rudy Giuliani presidential timber? I think not,” Dobson wrote. “Can we really trust a chief executive who waffles and feigns support for policies that run contrary to his alleged beliefs? Of greater concern is how he would function in office. Will we learn after it is too late just what the former mayor really thinks? What we know about him already is troubling enough.”

Maria Comella, a Giuliani spokeswoman, said that he is aware that his views on abortion may cost him some votes, but that he respects those who disagree with him.

“From the beginning, Mayor Giuliani has been straightforward on where he stands on the issue,” Comella said. “It’s a sign of leadership to stand by your views in the face of political expediency.”

As for Giuliani’s three marriages, Dobson wrote that there are “moral concerns about Giuliani’s candidacy that conservatives should find troubling.”

“Rudy wanted conservatives to believe he had undergone some kind of an election-eve conversion, more or less,” Dobson wrote. “Then the contradictions began catching up with him, which often happens to those who play games with words. No, this leopard has not changed his spots.”

20 Responses to “Could Constitution Party benefit from Giuliani nomination?”

  1. timothy west Says:

    So tell me, CP’ers - is your party making any outreaches to Mr. Dobson to try to bring him and his right wing loonies into the CP should the GOP nominate Rudy?

    Damn i hope so. it will marginalize them too.

  2. Eric Dondero Says:

    This is interesting. All we’ve heard from Libertarian Party folks (and the liberal media) for months is that the GOP would never nominate a Socially Moderate candidate like Rudy Giuliani.

    Now it’s starting to appear like Rudy has a real shot for clinching the nomination.

    Yet, I’m not seeing any of the former naysayers admitting that they were wrong.

  3. timothy west Says:

    I hope he does. Anything that will fracture the RP’s religious and foreign policy lines of support is good for the country.

    Send the Neo Cons to hell or jail, send the bible thumpers to the CP’s breakaway division of the ‘onward Christian Soldiers Party’, and send whats left of the Goldwater GOP to the LP.

    But bust up the GOP no matter what.

  4. Anthony Distler Says:

    “...and send whats left of the Goldwater GOP to the LP.”

    Alright, I’ll tell the California govenor and five others that you’re looking for them.

    Yes, the Constitution Party could really benefit from a Giuliani nomination. But you know who else benefits if the religious right leaves and joins the Constitution Party?

    ...Democrats.

  5. timothy west Says:

    Arnold a Goldwater man? please. Send me the LP the 4 others that actually fit the description.

  6. Trent Hill Says:

    Arnold is NOT a Goldwaterite. The CP is taking most of those.
    Yall’s open border policy and pro-choice policy scares all of them more than our flowery religious language.

    Iv already emailed James Dobson.

  7. globalist_elitist Says:

    Trent- Goldwater was a militarist. He was also 100% pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and anti-religious right. The GP is just as Goldwaterite as the CP.

  8. timothy west Says:

    Don’t include me - I’m no longer a LP member. Just commenting.

  9. Larry Breazeale,Msgt.(ret.)USAFR Says:

    Everyone,
    Be advised, Dr. Dobson has a history of being a “koolade drinker” to the republican party, especially ‘neo-cons’...so-called ‘conservatives’.
    King “GEORGE” being one of them! We, in the NVC (National Veterans Coalition) of the CONSTITUTION PARTY…a political action corps of
    military veterans and their families, are in the process of ‘drafting’ Dr. Jerome Corsi, Ph.D for President in 2008. OTHER potentials will of course
    come forward to show their intentions to run. THAT is fine but, we in the NVC back Corsi 100%. When Dr. Corsi SPEAKS on the various radio and
    T.V. stations and everywhere else, everyone , including Dr. Dobson, will
    know Dr. Corsi’s position on the issues and the C.P. as well. Will the
    REAL DR. Dobson please stand up?? Time will tell. We in the C.P. say…
    LEAD,FOLLOW OR GET OUT OF THE WAY. Oh yeah, NO AMNESTY!!

    -Larry Breazeale, Msgt. (ret.) USAFR
    Vice Chairman, NVC/CP
    WWW.NVETS.ORG

  10. Lex Says:

    Since Arnold has increased spending faster than Gray Davis did, is racking up debt like there’s no tomorrow, and has sold out to the left on practically everything, I think any comparison to Goldwater is a bit of a stretch.

  11. Sean Scallon Says:

    The only way a permanent breach would happen is if they said we’re leaving their party for good, not “We’ll let Rudy fall flat on his face and then pick up the pieces.” What Guliani lets Dobson et.al write the party platform to keep the anti-abortion plank in it? Will that satisfy them? It might. These people could have formed their own political party if they wanted to many years ago. That they haven’t shows they do not have much faith nor desire to engage in non-major party politics.

    A Guliani nomination would send some GOP members to the CP but not in mass quanities. The only way the Dobsons and the Robertsons would abandoned the GOP is if there are politicians willing to go with them or lead them.

  12. Eric Dondero Says:

    One of the greatest shockers of this Presidential race so far, is the amount of Christian conservatives who are backing Giuliani. It has puzzled all the pundits (no pun intended). Additionally, for some odd reason Southerners seem to flock to Giuliani.

    I have my own theory on this. It’s like Sean Hannity with the thick NY accent making it big in his first radio gig in Alabama, then Atlanta. Southerners have, for some reason, a facsination for New York City. I think that explains their support for New Yorker to the core Rudy Giuliani.

    The Republican Party will benefit from the best of both worlds with Rudy as the Nominee. Southerners and other Christian Conservatives will stay with the GOP, yet the GOP will have the opportunity to reach “libertarian lite” voters who are Fiscally Conservative/Socially Moderate.

  13. Andy Says:

    “Eric Dondero Says:

    May 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
    One of the greatest shockers of this Presidential race so far, is the amount of Christian conservatives who are backing Giuliani.”

    Well, this just goes to show you that most of them are either stupid or phonies, probably both.

  14. Trent Hill Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You think Southerners LIKE NYC?
    You’re an idiot Dondero. Spend some TIME in the South (no…not Texas…the South) and you’ll find otherwise.

    As for Christian conservatives supporting Guliani…some of them might be because they don’t know what he stands for…we’re gunna fix that.

  15. Sean Scallon Says:

    Which so-called “Christian Conservatives” are those Eric? Jim Dobson basically said he will not support Guliani. Name me a prominent evangelist who said he would support Guliani. I bet you can’t name one.

    You’re pathetic Eric. Just join the Guliani campaign and get it over with instead of pimping Wayne Allyn Root. Talk about having two feet in the same tent.

    Enjoy those j-walking tickets.

  16. Michael Says:

    Yes, Arnold is a Goldwater Republican. Namely, a RINO (Republican In Name Only). Goldwater only used the image of being a conservative to further his own career.

  17. Chris Campbell Says:

    Dobson is a whiny little GOP shill, he would not jump ship if the GOP ‘08 candidate was 10x wrose than Hillary.

    As long as they have “R” after their names and say they love Jesus, they are in like Flynn with the ‘Christian right”.

    The Christian Right is not terribly concerned with what is right, jsut that a GOPer will lie to them, make them feel good and tell them what they want to hear. Doubt me? look at the last 6 yrs of GW Bush. Look at the hypocrisy when Clinton was in office and the outrage then.

    Look at Bush 1. If you want change, go to Joe 6-pack and tell him why he is workig 2 jobs, why his wife is and why, before too long, his kids will.

    Tell him the truth about NAFTA, CAFTA, etc…tell him why he is losing his job overseas or south of border.

    The real “bread and butter” are the independant thinkers out there, the averge American Joe.

    Sorry, but the so-called “christian right” gets a big F

  18. Chris Campbell Says:

    “WASHINGTON (CNN)—Religious conservative leader James Dobson will sit out the 2008 presidential election if former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is the Republican presidential nominee”

    Proves my point, he will either be a GOP shill or “sit it out”. There is no other options in his mind, tells you a lot, no??

    BTW- as a kid, my parents were involved in pro-life groups, Christian Coalition, etc-I know the some called “right”, it is largely an inflated hot air bag.

  19. Timm Knibbs Says:

    The Constitution Party might benefit from a Gouliani nomination, but the country would benefit from a Ron Paul nomination.

  20. Cody Quirk Says:

    I don’t give a damn about Dobson!

    We need people like Ron Paul to pay attention to us.

Leave a Reply