Doug Stanhope Ends Presidential Campaign

Doug Stanhope has decided he’s not going to run for the Libertarian nomination for President next year.

One of his primary reasons for quitting was: “The other problem was simply in making the whole thing fun. The more rules, paperwork and bullshit we’d run into the less creative and funny it was becoming.”

Not to say “I told you so” or anything, but I’ll go ahead and quote myself from back in July of 2006 when people were upset about a lack of Stanhope coverage.

A few people have called or emailed me to ask why I haven’t mentioned Doug Stanhope’s announcement the he plans to run for President as a Libertarian in 2008.

I guess the reason is that I didn’t really take it all that seriously.

Lots of people say they’re running for President, particularly celebrities, and then when it gets down to the nuts and bolts of campaign finance reporting, raising money, and ballot access… it turns out to be a lot less “cool” than they originally thought and so they drop out.

I don’t really dislike Stanhope, but I don’t for a moment think he’s going to follow this all the way through to the LP convention and the general election.

The following is his MySpace blog post announcing that he won’t be making the race after all.

Warning, some not-safe-for-work language is included…

May 1st, 2007

Stanhope in ‘08 has Quit in ‘07!

We’re done, at least so far as being a candidate.

For all of our false optimism, forced enthusiasm and the tireless effort of
a small team of close friends, we couldn’t get past the wall of bureaucracy.

The Federal Election Commision proved insurmountable in their spiderweb of legal fingerfucking. The idea that I could run an effective campaign rested on the fact that I tour constantly for a living and have a built-in audience & media wherever I go. FEC rules would not allow for me to campaign at paid gigs while also retaining a personal income from those shows.

If I can’t recruit from my shows, I’m about as effective as standing on a milk crate in the city park.

Even our crafty attempts at creating our own loopholes in the laws - like
jailhouse attorneys trying to invent and employ makeshift last-minute
defenses - still came up short in the face of the Federal Election
Commision.

The system is set up to keep the two-party monopoly as free from competition as possible.

The penalties for fucking up with FEC rules make IRS penalties look like fetish spankings and I fuck up quite a bit.

The other problem was simply in making the whole thing fun. The more rules,
paperwork and bullshit we’d run into the less creative and funny it was
becoming. The process started to feel like when we had to “clean it up” for the Man Show - and we all know how well that worked out.

Our intention in this campaign was to try to get media attention for the Libertarian
Party and we have no intention of giving up that campaign. It’s frustrating to see this country bordering on totalitarianism
and having viable options like the Libertarians completely blacked out.

We’ll still put our efforts into getting the LP into the mainstream and
eventually get behind a candidate. But it was better to bail now before
announcing as opposed to plowing through with our pants half down only to
fall apart later, looking like complete shitheads at the expense of the
Party.

The amount of high-level people that went out of their way to support us was amazing. On the day that we have our shit together - more organized and better prepared to deal with the powers that be - we may just take another stab at it.

So jump on board, join the Libertarian Party (www.lp.org) and stay involved. We still plan on making some noise this year and turning the Libertarian National Convention in Denver next May into the Animal House of the Next Revolution.

Be sure to get on our mailing list so you can get involved in the trouble we’ll be causing.

***************************

For those of you with Stanhope in 08 t-shirts, I promise I will try to die
in some horrible fashion that makes them vaulable some day.

The one I feel the most responsibility to is the chick in my photo page who I don’t even
know, who tattooed Stanhope in 08 on her shoulder.

We’ll fly you down to our tattoo guy in Tampa and pay to have it redone when
we play there in November. Maybe we can make it say “Sanjaya in ‘08”. Or
maybe I’ll run for a local water commisioner post in ‘08 and you’ll look
like you’re extremely over-zealous about low-level local politics.

***********************

Many people have said that it doesn’t matter who you vote for, that the
whole game is rigged. That’s why our next project will be to start our own
Illuminati, Skull & Bones and New World Order that will secretly control the
current New World Order without them even knowing.

Our secret society will be so secret that many of it’s member will not even
know they are members. America has laws against monopolies and there is no
reason that there cannot be free market competition when it comes to covert,
world-ruling cabals and all-powerful, mystical fraternities.

******************************

My deepest thanks to all who went out of your way for this
truncated attempt at giving the whole system the finger. We still intend to
say ” Fuck You” loudly and repeatedly. We’ll just have to find more unique,
exciting and unregulated ways to do it.

No matter who is elected to what man-made office or put on whatever throne,
you are still the leader of your own free world.

Stick around.

stanhope

33 Responses to “Doug Stanhope Ends Presidential Campaign”

  1. Eric Sundwall Says:

    Mr. Stanhope’s irreverent style and message of Liberty can still continue without a candidacy. His frank realism with regard to his own candidacy and his continued advocacy of the LP will probably have greater resonance than trying to convince 800 delegates in Denver he’s their man.

  2. matt Says:

    I hope so. I would have never supported him as a candidate because I don’t think he would have made a good president. On the other hand, if I were a lefty, I’d never support a Michael Moore presidential run.

    What Stanhope could be is the libertarian Michael Moore. I hope he spends the entire election season exposing both of the major party asses and staging stunts to publicly mock the huge consistency holes in their policies.

    He would be amazing at that. He’s funny and sharp.

  3. globalist_elitist Says:

    Whatever. I was behind this guy, but if he’s going to bitch out and whine “it’s too hard,” then he’s no better than these other losers, and in fact, is worse.

    Hey Stanhope, fuck you.

  4. Andy Says:

    Awww man, this sucks! I was really looking forward to Doug Stanhope being in the race. I hope that Doug will still work to promote the Libertarian Party even though he’s not running for office.

  5. globalist_elitist Says:

    I mean, this is B.S. He could have gone ahead and let the FEC try to stop him. This would highlight the injustice of bogus campaign finance laws, and it would even make young liberals take a second look. It isn’t just about “campaign contributions” as in checks written in $4,200 increments. It’s about SPEECH. Speech is hard to quantify, but the bueracrats try, and this would have been made painfully evident to the “netroots” crowd by Stanhope’s campaign. Instead, he just pussied out.

  6. Bill Wood Says:

    I agree that Doug can probably do alot more for the Libertarian Party by not running. If he is able to encourge his followers to join the LP and support LP Candidates with money and time this would be very, very helpful. So in another thread the LP “Upper Tier” would be Kubby, Phillies and Root, however I would like to include Karen Kwaitowski in this group.

    If Philles does not win the nomination,does he still appear on the ballot in New Hampshire, if they can gather enough signatures? Then Karen would still appear as the VP Candidate.

  7. Bill Wood Says:

    For those who don’t know who Karen Kwiatkowski is I sniped this from Wikipedia.

    Karen Kwiatkowski
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    Colonel Kwiatkowski during an interview in Honour BetrayedKaren U. Kwiatkowski (born 24 September 1960) is a retired U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel whose assignments included duties as a Pentagon desk officer and a variety of roles for the National Security Agency. Since retiring, she has become a noted critic of the U.S. government’s involvement in Iraq. Kwiatkowski is primarily known for her insider essays which denounce a corrupting political influence on the course of military intelligence leading up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. She has said she was the anonymous source used by Seymour Hersh and Warren Strobel in their respective exposés of pre-war intelligence.

    Colonel Kwiatkowski has an MA in Government from Harvard and a MS in Science Management from the University of Alaska. She has a PhD in World Politics from Catholic University; her thesis was on overt and covert war in Angola, A Case Study of the Implementation of the Reagan Doctrine. She has also published two books about U.S. policy towards Africa: African Crisis Response Initiative: Past Present and Future (US Army Peacekeeping Institute, 2000) and Expeditionary Air Operations in Africa: Challenges and Solutions (Air University Press, 2001).[1]

  8. Sean Scallon Says:

    Good! The last thing the LP needs is another joke candidacy. One would think they’ve had their fll of “Starchilds” and “Chief Wana Dubies.” This isn’t the Stark Raving Looney Party.

  9. Tom Gellhaus Says:

    While I don’t really have much knowledge of Karen, and certainly don’t bear her any animosity, the following statement caught my eye :
    “The classified computer systems supporting NSA, CIA, and DIA systems (as well as those paid for by the RNC) shall be auctioned off (along with their data) to the highest bidder - foreign or domestic.”

    (from her April 26,2007 article on LRC,
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski180.html )

    I’d be very concerned about the “data” referred to. Was it acquired by legal, much less Constitutional methods? Does this data include information on private law-abiding citizens?

    Rather than make some quick money, I think it makes more sense from a privacy and libertarian viewpoint to destroy any data that the federal government has on private citizens.

  10. [email protected] Says:

    I’m actually somewhat disappointed that Stanhope isn’t running now. At the very least, his candidacy would likely have drawn some attention to the LP. I would still have supported Kubby for the nomination, but Stanhope would have made the race much more interesting and visible.

    I agree with GE, minus the rancor—Stanhope could have made a BIG contribution to the political discourse by openly running and daring the FEC to try to force him to treat his comedy gigs as campaign events (and the revenues from those gigs as contributions). As a matter of fact, he might have made a much bigger mark in that particular area, through litigation or whatever, than he would have with his campaign per se. I tried something similar once, but I’m non-famous enough for the FEC to safely ignore.

  11. John Taylor Bowles Says:

    He makes some good points. All those rules do take the fun and creativity out of it.

  12. Andy Says:

    “If Philles does not win the nomination,does he still appear on the ballot in New Hampshire, if they can gather enough signatures? Then Karen would still appear as the VP Candidate.”

    If George Phillies does not with the Libertarian Party Presidential nomination, what would be the point of having him on the ballot in New Hampshire?

  13. Trent Hill Says:

    John Bowles…

    Shutup Nazi.

  14. Bill Wood Says:

    Andy, thats the problem. I have been told that because the LP of New Hampshire have already nominated Phillies he will be the LP Candidate on the State Ballot. So the LP Candidate (if not Phillies)will not receive any votes from N.H.

  15. globalist_elitist Says:

    Why do you gotta go calling people “Nazis,” Trent? Does Trent Hill = undercover_anarchist?

  16. Andy Says:

    “Bill Wood Says:

    May 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 pm
    Andy, thats the problem. I have been told that because the LP of New Hampshire have already nominated Phillies he will be the LP Candidate on the State Ballot. So the LP Candidate (if not Phillies)will not receive any votes from N.H.”

    That’s really considerate of the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire to nominate a Presidential candidate and start the process of putting him on the ballot over a year before the National Convention before the actual nomination will happen. Do they have a crystal ball that tells them that George Phillies is going to win the nomination, or do they just not give a damn about the rest of the party? What if somebody else wins the nomination at the national convention? The National Convention is a year from now so I think that it is way too early to say who is going to get the nomination.

  17. [email protected] Says:

    Bill,

    You write:

    “So the LP Candidate (if not Phillies)will not receive any votes from N.H.”

    Not that it really matters (as we shall see), but that’s not strictly correct.

    When you cast your vote for president, you aren’t voting for a candidate for president. You are voting for an elector who is pledged to support that candidate at the meeting of the electoral college.

    I strongly suspect that if the national LP nominee performes well enough in the other states to be just short of a majority in the electoral college, and if George carries New Hampshire, he will urge “his” electors to cast their votes for that other candidate instead so as to elect a Libertarian president, even though that president will not be him.

    Conversely, if George carries New Hampshire and the other-states situation above does NOT apply, I hope that New Hampshire’s Libertarian electors will dance with the guy what brung’em. He’ll have earned it.

    Of course, the possibility of the LP being in a position to win the presidency and that hinging on George’s electoral votes from New Hampshire, isn’t one I’d recommend losing a lot of sleep over. Libertarian candidates have so far garnered a grand total of one electoral vote for president and one for vice president (making Tonie Nathan the first woman and the first Jew to win an electoral vote in a presidential election, 12 years before Geraldine Ferraro and 29 years before Joe Lieberman respectively), and those votes were cast by a “faithless elector,” not won at the polls.

  18. Austin Cassidy Says:

    Richard Winger would probably know the details, but… could the other Libertarian candidates just go ahead and petition their way onto the NH ballot as independents… just in case?

  19. Andy Says:

    Tom, your scenario about the Electoral College is not relavent because we all know that the Libertarian Presidential candidate stands little to no chance of recieving electoral votes anywhere.

    The reality of the situation is that the New Hampshire Libertarian Party is jumping the gun by nominating a candidate and starting the process to put that candidate on the ballot over a year before the Libertarian National Convention when the candidate will officially be chosen. If George Phillies does not win the nomination, it is going to screw over whoever does win it. Sure, the possibility exsists that George Phillies will win the nomination, but it is way too early to tell.

  20. George Phillies Says:

    Austin,
    You are correct. In contrast, Andy doesn’t know what he is talking about. The current action of the LPNH has no effect on ballot access for the nominee of the Denver convention. Recall that there is NO “Libertarian” line in NH. Other than the D and the R, we all run as Independents.

    Either that nominee is me (in which case petitioning may already have been done) or it is someone else. If it is someone else, they have exactly the same petitioning challenge (3000 signatures in 6 weeks, not done successfully in 2004) regardless of what the LPNH has done or not done in the meantime.

    In contrast, the recent LNC threat to expel me from the party over the issue (alternatively, the recent threat by three LNC members who falsely claimed to have unanimous LNC support for this threat) (I have now spoken to six LNC members about this, and several of them vigorously deny that the others are telling the truth) may create all sorts of difficulties. The loyalty oath with which I was presented by the three LNC members, as a document that the LNC is allegedly going to be calling on its candidates to sign, is similarly controversial. (Once again, I have spoken to a half-dozen LNC members, and they do not agree on what the LNC decided, in an internal debate that all agreed was secret .)

    Having listened to all this from the three LNC members, I did present them with the countercomplaint of at least some candidates, namely the LNC is failing to support its own candidates, as witness (1) no mention of the candidates on the LP.ORG web site*, (2) no candidate advertising in LP News, (3) no rental of the LP mailing list, and (4) the recent act, seemingly not consistent with the LNC Policy manual, in which a member of the LNC paid staff circulated material attacking four candidates by name and urging LNC members to look for an alternative Presidential candidate.

    My position in that the LPNH and the LNC have long-standing disagreement that they might usefully try to settle. I’m a candidate. I’m not going to get involved in it more than necessary. I’m going to try to get along in a positive way with all sides in the matter.

    And now I have spent more time on this controversy than it is worth, because I would much rather be spending my time on outreach to the general public.

    George Phillies
    http://www.phillies2008.com

    *I am recently offered a chance to rent ad space on the lp.org web site. The minimum charge is $5000. For five thousand dollars, I can buy ten or fifteen million adwords impressions that actually reach the general public.

  21. Carl Says:

    I don’t know who the genius was who decided that LP news shouldn’t take ads, but it was a very bad decision. I don’t care whether the ads were a net revenue enhancer for the party. The purpose of allowing ads is to allow candidates and factions to cheaply make their case to the general membership. Now, staff has a tight reign on the information flow.

    Yet another reason, I no longer consider myself a party member. Gotta get that resignation letter written…

  22. Bill Wood Says:

    Hmmmm, I wonder if there might be a reason for LPHQ for not renting the “Membership List” or selling advertising at this time? Maybe some of the changes in the “Incumbent Protection” rules have everyone trying to figure them out.

  23. Andy Says:

    “George Phillies Says:

    May 3rd, 2007 at 9:36 am
    Austin,
    You are correct. In contrast, Andy doesn’t know what he is talking about. The current action of the LPNH has no effect on ballot access for the nominee of the Denver convention. Recall that there is NO ‘Libertarian’ line in NH. Other than the D and the R, we all run as Independents.”

    OK, I was under the impression that the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire was going to put you on the ballot with the Libertarian Party label next to your name, and that once you were on there it could not be changed. If you are just on the ballot as an independent then that would mean that if somebody else wins the nomination at the Libertarian National Convention that they’d have to petition to get themselves on the ballot, and I assume that you’d withdrawl your spot on the ballot since there’d be no point in being on the ballot in only one state.

  24. Andy Says:

    “Having listened to all this from the three LNC members, I did present them with the countercomplaint of at least some candidates, namely the LNC is failing to support its own candidates, as witness (1) no mention of the candidates on the LP.ORG web site*, (2) no candidate advertising in LP News, (3) no rental of the LP mailing list, and (4) the recent act, seemingly not consistent with the LNC Policy manual, in which a member of the LNC paid staff circulated material attacking four candidates by name and urging LNC members to look for an alternative Presidential candidate.”

    It seems pretty crappy that LP National is not supporting the candidates. If somebody has the gumption to seek the Libertarian Party Presidential nomination one would think that the least that LP National could do would be to offer to rent the LP mailing list, sell ad space, and at least mention the candidates in LP News and on the website.

  25. Bill Wood Says:

    Last month’s LP News was almost completely used for the Candidates. Their photos , bio’s and their answers to 4 questions were printed. This was much better than a small ad.

  26. Austin Cassidy Says:

    I have no knowledge of the situation relating to candidate ads in LP News or through the party’s mailing list… but is it possible they’re being more careful with the data to avoid the list being “Hackered” by another questionable campaign that’s concerned more with taking money from party members than it is with reaching out to voters?

  27. globalist_elitist Says:

    Andy - They’re not supporting the candidates because Barr is going to be their candidate.

  28. Andy Says:

    “globalist_elitist Says:

    May 3rd, 2007 at 7:29 pm
    Andy - They’re not supporting the candidates because Barr is going to be their candidate.”

    I hope that you are wrong about this. While I’m glad that Bob Barr APPEARS to have moved in a Libertarian direction, I don’t feel comfortable with him as the “face” of the party - at least not yet. I’d prefer to see Bob Barr in an activist role, or maybe even running for a lower level office.

  29. Eric Dondero Says:

    And just breaking Wayne Root is formally announcing his candidacy tomorrow morning.

    It may be on Fox News.

  30. infojunkie Says:

    You can thank John McCain’s Incumbant Protection Act, aka BCRA, the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Act, for the primary reason why LP News doesn’t accept ads any more.

  31. Andy Says:

    “Eric Dondero Says:

    May 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 pm
    And just breaking Wayne Root is formally announcing his candidacy tomorrow morning.”

    Yipp-dee-fucking-do.

    “It may be on Fox News.”

    This is appropriate. The neo-con candidate on the neo-con TV network.

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