Unity ‘08 Launches New Website

Unity ‘08 has relaunched their website at: http://www.unity08.com

In case you forgot about them, Unity ‘08 is a group that some people believe is an early organizing tool for an independent Presidential candidate (Mike Bloomberg?). They seek to nominate an alternative ticket in 2008.

32 Responses to “Unity ‘08 Launches New Website”

  1. Rob Says:

    I would like to suggest as Schweitzer/Dorgan ticket.

  2. rj Says:

    How likely is this a Bloomberg vehicle? Have his financial backers (and Bloomberg’s money itself) been tied to this party?

    Is it even a party or is it just an independent group?

  3. Citizens For A Better Veterans Home (founded 1998) Says:

    Donald Trump or Mike Bloomberg for President?

    Lou Dobbs for vice president with either?

  4. Timothy West Says:

    somebody with a purse is behind it. They see the political vacuum as well.

  5. matt Says:

    What vacuum could there possibly be IN THE CENTER? In the primaries we will see both parties dancing toward the center as fast as they can.

    Republicans will want to dissasociate themselves from Bush, and since they can’t/won’t do it on the war they’ll have to do it by softening their social stance.

    Democrats will also be trying to paint their candidate as a centrist, since no-one stance could get through the primaries or help them raise funds.

    Oh, to be sure, there’s room for third-party candidates in ‘08, but certainly not in the center!

  6. matt Says:

    “no other stance”, not “no-one stance”

  7. Jackcjackson Says:

    Bloomberg should just run as a Republican if that’s what he wants to do. I don’t see how he’s much different from any of the other candidates. They are all the same big government types.

  8. Derrick Says:

    I couldn’t care less about Unity08, but one of their goals really stands out to me: to “nominate the next President and Vice-President through the first-ever online, virtual convention.” This Internet-centric approach is pretty similar to that of the Boston Tea Party.

    I would really be jazzed to see the LP embrace the Internet more, and upgrade LP.org so that all members and supporters can have user accounts on LP.org, receive continuous email updates, and participate in some party functions online. I realize that some of this is being done, but it seems there is room for more of it.

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  10. Eric Dondero Says:

    Champion Vegas Sports Oddsmaker Wayne Root has been raising his political profile, as of late. He’s been editorializing on politics, and saying that the GOP needs to reach out more to libertarian minded voters. Root, author of “Republican Millionaire” recently called himself a “Jewish Libertarian Republican.” (Full story at www.mainstreamlibertairan.com)

    Could Root be planning a GOP Presidential Primary run?

    He’d be much preferable to Mr. Smoking Ban himself Michael Blooomburg.

  11. NewFederalist Says:

    Eric Dondero- until today I had never heard of Wayne Root. I doubt he would have any impact running as a Republican. He seems interesting enough (from what I read at your website) but just completely unknown.

  12. paulie cannoli Says:

    I heard Eric has stayed in touch with the Sasquatch who signed his smoking rights petition in Alaska and is grooming the Sasquatch for a possible VP run on the 2008 Republican ticket with Wayne Root. The Sasquatch could not be reached for immediate comment, but several reliable anonymous sources in the Alaska LP have confirmed this story.

  13. Jackcjackson Says:

    Wayne Root is always on TV doing the odds for football games, talking about his book on talkshows, wrote many books, been around awhile. Most known for gambling, though. he isn’t unknown, but I guess not WELL known.

    As far as the “online” thing. I actually think that’s a problem for Libertarians, just the opposite. Too many librtarians exist ONLY on the internet while I still believe too many actual voters and people who ultimately choose what happens are out there in the “real world.”

    Not knocking the internet, as it helps me survive. Just being practical.

  14. paulie cannoli Says:

    I think the internet will be crucial in securing a victory for Root-Sasquatch ‘08.

  15. Andy Says:

    “Wayne Root is always on TV doing the odds for football games, talking about his book on talkshows, wrote many books, been around awhile. Most known for gambling, though. he isn’t unknown, but I guess not WELL known.”

    Didn’t the RepubliCON Congress recently pass some kind of ban on on-line gambling? I doubt that Root would stand a chance of getting the RepubliCON nomination for President.

  16. paulie cannoli Says:

    Didn’t the RepubliCON Congress recently pass some kind of ban on on-line gambling? I doubt that Root would stand a chance of getting the RepubliCON nomination for President.

    Yes, the Rapepublicneocon Party will nominate a libertarian Jew associated with internet gambling.

    Also on the ticket in ‘08 on Planet Eric will be a gay transsexual abortionist pot grower on the Constitution ticket, a Mormon missionary gunsmith running as a Green, a homechooler State Spending Limits activist running as the nominee of the Double Penetration Donkey Show Party, and of course a Zell Miller-Bill O’Reilly Libertarian dream ticket.

    The Sasquatch gives this scnario “three thumbs up.”

  17. Devious David Says:

    The CFR, Fed, etc/whatever is behind it. My twisted conspiracy theorist mind considers this new high-buck website prima-facie evidence towards such an idea. Just like I knew all along. Don’t you smell the rats too? It couldn’t be anymore obvious that this is the same pattern that “they” always follow: it is an effort to coopt the opposition and waste their time, money and efforts on something that is inimical to their true desires while misleading and further misinforming Joe Public as to what the REAL root of the problems he sees is.

    This is the only “alternative” third party movement that will not be blacked out. Barring Ross Perot, and that Anti-Corvair guy.

    Thank you for your support.

  18. paulie cannoli Says:

    The CFR, Fed, etc/whatever is behind it.

    Root-Sasquatch is the only ticket which is not under the control of the reptilian CFR masters. Vote Root-Sasquatch to liberate planet Earth from alien domination!

  19. Andy Says:

    “The CFR, Fed, etc/whatever is behind it. My twisted conspiracy theorist mind considers this new high-buck website prima-facie evidence towards such an idea. Just like I knew all along. Don’t you smell the rats too? It couldn’t be anymore obvious that this is the same pattern that “they” always follow: it is an effort to coopt the opposition and waste their time, money and efforts on something that is inimical to their true desires while misleading and further misinforming Joe Public as to what the REAL root of the problems he sees is.

    This is the only “alternative” third party movement that will not be blacked out. Barring Ross Perot, and that Anti-Corvair guy.

    Thank you for your support.”

    I totally agree that this Unity ‘08 thing sounds like a sham. It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any REAL “third party” candidates. I wouldn’t be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.

    In part of G. Edward Griffin’s excellent book “The Creature From Jekyll Island: A Second Look At The Federal Reserve” (available at www.realityzone.com) he wrote about how Woodrow Wilson got elected President. The big bankers funded both the Republican Taft as well as the Democrat Wilson. The bankers (through their agents) got Teddy Roosevelt to run as the Bull Moose Party candidate and they funded him as well.

  20. paulie cannoli Says:

    I totally agree that this Unity ‘08 thing sounds like a sham. It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any REAL “third party” candidates. I wouldn’t be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.

    McCain seems likely to be the Rapepublicneocon (NSGOP) nominee. I don’t remember Eric calling him a libertarian yet, but it’s probably just a matter of time.

    He did call Lieberman libertarian-leaning. Amused and skeptical readers, I shit you not. Maybe Lieberman can be the Unity88 candidate.

    Let’s face facts: only the Root-Sasquatch national ticket can save us from brain-eating parasites, earthquakes, floods, and certain doom!

  21. rj Says:

    “I totally agree that this Unity ‘08 thing sounds like a sham. It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any REAL “third party” candidates. I wouldn’t be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.”

    With all due respect, why does this “Unity ‘08 thing” owe you or any third party anything? Do you seriously think the Republican or Democratic Parties got together and decided “lets run a joint centrist ticket because the Libertarians and Greens might defeat us come November 2008”. Russ Feingold and Tom Tancredo cooperating to hold the Libertarians down. Please.

    There is a growing discord in this country toward the two parties, and it’s well deserved. This effort, if serious, will be an avenue for someone who can capitalize on that discord. That is what politics is! Why do you think Perot was a sham for third parties? Cause he didn’t belong to your party? Lets look at the results from the 1992 election:

    Ross Perot 19743821 - 18.91%
    Andre Marrou 290087 - 0.28%
    Other 375659 - 0.36%

    I imagine that there is someone out in the internet that thinks Ross Perot should not have run cause Andre Marrou could’ve increased his vote total to 19.19%. Idiot.

    If you think this is a sham. Fine, get more votes than them in the election! If you do, it is a sham!

  22. Andy Says:

    “With all due respect, why does this “Unity ‘08 thing” owe you or any third party anything? Do you seriously think the Republican or Democratic Parties got together and decided “lets run a joint centrist ticket because the Libertarians and Greens might defeat us come November 2008”. Russ Feingold and Tom Tancredo cooperating to hold the Libertarians down. Please.”

    I did not intend to imply that Unity ‘08 owed myself or any “third party” anything. I was merely speculating that Unity ‘08 could be establishment connected controlled opposition.

  23. rj Says:

    Do you think anything not establishment connected will ever win anything?

    At the end of the day, big money has to support you (unless you’re Ross Perot and can self-finance) and a majority of people vote based on what the establishment tell them. The only time in this country a longshot wins is Hollywood sports movies.

    Is it any coincidence the best-ever result for the Libertarian Party was with a very establishment connected billionaire as the VP candidate?

    You act as if the establishment being behind Unity ‘08 is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think that is a very good thing. Why? Cause it means the establishment are starting to believe the Republican and Democratic parties cannot get it done anymore, which is in line with what myself and most people on this site believe too and can only enhance third parties once Republicans and Democrats can no longer use the “wasted vote” hypothesis and gerrymanders that no longer apply to new political boundaries to guarantee their re-election.

  24. Andy Says:

    “Do you think anything not establishment connected will ever win anything?”

    If it doesn’t happen we are all screwed.

  25. Andy Says:

    “You act as if the establishment being behind Unity ‘08 is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think that is a very good thing.”

    I’d say that it’s cause for concern. If Unity ‘08 ends up with a McCain/Lieberman ticket or if Bloomberg gets their nomination I’d call that a bad thing, a very bad thing in fact.

  26. Phil Sawyer Says:

    As a person who is just a garden variety member of Unity08, I really do not know enough about the organization yet to say too much. It does seem to me, though, that rj is correct about it taking someone of the stature of Ross Perot to run an independent and/or third party presidential campaign that will be taken seriously by the general public - and, I would add, the bourgeois news media.

    Member: CUIP; GPUS; Unity08

  27. rj Says:

    “I’d say that it’s cause for concern. If Unity ‘08 ends up with a McCain/Lieberman ticket or if Bloomberg gets their nomination I’d call that a bad thing, a very bad thing in fact.”

    1.) I cannot see McCain with any nomination except the Republican nod. If he loses to Romney he’ll go along with it. My opinion.
    2.) With the result of this recent election (and his totally failed 2004 presidential bid), I think Lieberman is done on the federal stage.
    3.) Bloomberg would be interesting. By most accounts (not all I know), he has run New York City well, which is a harder job than Governor of some states. My presidential thoughts of Bloomberg are this:

    a.) He is currently a somewhat-fiscal conservative, social liberal Republican.
    b.) The fiscal conservative, social liberal class -almost all of the Republicans in the northeast - are currently disenfranchised from the country’s politics right now. There are Republicans that are fiscal liberal and social conservative and there are Democrats that are fiscal liberal but more so than Republicans and social liberal. I think Bloomberg sees this.
    c.) Bloomberg knows he would never get the Republican nomination for President. One reason I wonder why Giuliani is even bothering to try.
    d.) The man has a lot of money, but still takes the subway to work everyday.
    e.) I think the partisan tone of the last few years, the problems that have occurred, and the complete lack of solution from both parties is making the coming election ripe for “a pox on both your houses” vote.

  28. Sean Scallon Says:

    If Rudy Guliani was smart, he would abandon any hopes of winning the GOP nomination and go with this Unity ‘08 group. Because it will fit him more than trying to convince Bob Jones University students in Greenville, SC to vote for him when there’s a snowball’s chance in hell that they will. This sounds like more of a vehicle for Guliani than Bloomberg and Guliani has the stature and the access to money to make it work. Hell, Bloomberg could finance the damn thing.

    I just think the GOP is just too small for Guliani to make it.

  29. Phil Sawyer Says:

    Actually, Mr. Guliani has a lot more support in the Republican Party than is generally known. I think that is because he has great appeal to the fiscal conservatives who do not consider themselves part of the Religious Right - and there are a lot of them!

    RJ is probably correct about Mayor Bloomberg seeing the writing on the wall, so to speak, about his chances at the GOP nomination. He seems to be more of the Independent type than either Guliani or John McCain.

    RJ is also correct in thinking that it is very unlikely that Senator McCain would pull a John Anderson. The time for that would have been in 2000. He did not “strike when the iron was hot.” It would be more difficult to do so when the time has come and gone. Not impossible though. The Senator admires Teddy Roosevelt and, under the right circumstances (like the Republican Party splitting into two or more pieces), he might go the independent route.

  30. EB Degner Says:

    Just what do you think the American People are looking for in a Candidate in 08 ?

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