Joe Reporting from Portland (Day 2, Part 3)

The Following Report was submitted by Joe Magyer from this weekend’s Libertarian National Convention in Portland, Oregon. Joe is covering the event for Third Party Watch and we’ll be posting his dispatches as they’re received.

DAY 2 / Part Three ————————————————————

I observe that Carl Misted looks like Mick Jagger, minus the dancing and leather pants.

There is currently debate over changing the word from “Shall” to “May” in one amendment. Important issue, for sure. If anyone cares, the amendment failed.

I don’t think I do.

One guy just asked Michael Dixon “Is there anyone on the LNC that knows what they are doing?” Well, you’ve got to give him points for being blunt.

The current discussion is over a motion about changing the status of the name with which we refer to people who are part of the party from member to sustaining member, I believe. I could be off on this because I am flying along with my keyboard and recording votes for the platform. It seems there is a great deal of confusion on what this motion is exactly about.

There is now a current motion by a former Treasurer who is proposing several changes to the position. A couple of motions I’ve heard from him: change the job description of the Treasurer, hire outside auditors to approve our books, and to make our books conform to GAAP, General Accepted Accounting Principles. I do like the idea of increased organization and professionalism, as well as, again, more transparency.

The motion was supported by a couple of fellas and it passed without a single “No” vote.

Oh, snap, Carl Milsted just took the podium. I reaffirm my belief that he looks like Mick Jagger. He gave a brief speech supporting adjusting the bylaws to make the tent for the LP a bit larger. This short speech was followed by lively discussion from both camps. Literally, there are more people lined up to speak on this issue than any other.

Specifically, the issue is whether or not to replace Article 7, Section 1, which reads, “Members of the Party shall be those persons who have certified in writing that they oppose the initiation of force to achieve political or social goals.” with the phrase “A member of the Party shall be any libertarian who has self-identified as a member.” The hard liners reject this change, while the more open tent style LRC types support Carl.

The motion failed. We will now proceed to 10 minutes of debate on the proposal that was given.

There is now discussion of an amendment that would change the article just discussed to “A member of the Party shall be any libertarian who supports smaller government, lower taxes and more individual freedom.”

There is NOW a motion to change the language to read “Members of the Party shall be those who have certified in writing that they support smaller government, lower taxes and more individual freedom.”

The vote was very close! In fact, after such a close voice vote, Dixon is judging by how many stand in favor of changing the motion.

Dixon decides that the change to the motion passes.

Hold the phone, there is now an objection on the floor that we should do a manual count. However, that was rejected.

We’re now about to take a 2/3 vote to accept the motion…

The motion failed.

Lunch time.

14 Responses to “Joe Reporting from Portland (Day 2, Part 3)”

  1. Will Says:

    Shit, so the pledge stands as it always was? Can this come up for a vote again?

  2. Tim West Says:

    Lunch is for wheeling and dealing.

  3. Stuart Richards Says:

    Whoa… shit, I hope they can still change this.

  4. Trevor Southerland Says:

    Tim and Stuart, I like you guys…

    but what I have to point out is this…

    Many Reformers are seen by others as sort of hostage takers. They have this philosophy of “Well, change this and I’ll donate” and that isn’t received well.

    Now from what I hear convention attendance is low… but if only 30 attended the LRC meeting than the LRC makes up less than 10% of the party delegates… can’t win if you don’t get the people to turn out…

    But, there’s still time for a change, so who knows what’ll happen…

  5. Mike Kole Says:

    Trevor- Maybe now I am beginning to see the distinctions here.

    I am a candidate for office, and with this being 4th of July weekend, with a few parades you may have heard, I could not justify attending the convention. It makes me wonder how many other reformers/candidates did not attend because they were tending to the business of getting elected, while the pure philosophers, free of actually doing any of the business related to a political party’s objectives of getting elected and moving policy, can attend in numbers and retain the proven, failing 1% worthy status quo.

  6. Rock Howard Says:

    I decided to concentrate on my race rather than attend. I will be on local TV tonight and at various parades and other public events over the extended holiday weekend. My thought is that winning a significant office may be more for the libertarian movement (and for the eventual reform of the Libertarian Party) than yet another convention. We shall see.

  7. Trevor Southerland Says:

    Mike,

    As a person who’s in the middle of the Purist/Reformist debate but tends to vote with the Purists more…

    I have stayed in Georgia because as Executive Director of Georgia I can do a far better job here than in Portland.

    Over the last 8 days I have been in the LPGeorgia Offices a total of, 135 hours… so I guess I’m just one of those pure philosophers, not doing “any of the business related to a political party’s objectives of getting elected and moving policy.”

    Of course, the 2004 Convention was on Memorial Day weekend and I don’t think the Reformists had much larger numbers then…

    BUT - one point we do agree on… I have said for years that the LP Convention should not be on a holiday weekend… thus there wouldn’t be a debate between parades or convention… I also think we should have it in (sorry Portland) more major cities… the cost of flying to LA, Atlanta, DC, Boston, NYC, Miami, Chicago, etc… is a lot cheaper than flying to Portland, Oregon.

  8. Tim West Says:

    I couldnt attend becuase of my health problems, or at least I thought. 4 weeks before I was in not so good shape. Now better, but still on chemo with it’s attendant problems. I wish I could have gone, but I made the safe choice and I have no regrets.

  9. Chris Farris Says:

    Ah, the drama that I’m missing…....

    Portland is a cool city though.

  10. Hammer of Truth » Libertarian Party Convention Recap (Saturday) Says:

    [...] Austin Cassidy’s Third Party Watch has someone taking very good notes, as there’s a 5-part series detailing what Joe Magyer’s impressions of the LP Convention in Portland (part one, two, three, four, five): Oh, snap, Carl Milsted just took the podium. I reaffirm my belief that he looks like Mick Jagger. He gave a brief speech supporting adjusting the bylaws to make the tent for the LP a bit larger. This short speech was followed by lively discussion from both camps. Literally, there are more people lined up to speak on this issue than any other. [...]

  11. Rolf Lindgren Says:

    I hope they keep the pledge and moderate the platform.

    The future of the LP is in the center.

  12. Not So Wealthy Libertarian Says:

    Not everyone has the money to travel across country this year. Not every member is in the upper middle class. Some of us feel that spending much needed resources on fancy hotels and steak dinners is a waste of money. Instead of doling out thousands of dollars to attend a 3 day talking heads vacation of mind numbing boredom, I chose to donate $1000.00 to the 3 Libertarian party candidates that I feel has the best chances of a strong showing in November, including Michael Badnariks campaign.

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